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Arya-And-Castes In Hindu Sanatan Dharma.


Arya means a noble person/ gentleman.
 If in behavior, speech, actions, one adheres to principles of vedas – is
civilized, affectionate to fellow people, not tempted to commit sins,
hygienic, promotes and propagates truth, etc – he or she is an Arya. Again
it is not a binary logic, but a continuous function.

2. English is a poor approximate of vedic language. But Brahmin, Kshatriya,
Vaishya, Shudra are names of varnas or classifications based on profession.
They have nothing to do with birth. Shudra is someone who could not get
 adequetly educated and hence incompetent to be in any of these professions.

People in knowledge based matters are Brahmins, those in state/defence level
 matters are Kshatriyas, those in financial/ economic jobs are Vaishyas and
 rest are Shudras.

3. These Varnas are nothing to do with presently used custom of surnames. In
 fact if you read Ramayan or Mahabharat or other texts of those times, you do
not find this tradition of First Name-Middle Name-Surname as nomenclature of
people.

I would refute the basis of argument that Arya word denotes parentage
in any manner.

1. Of course, family and parentage do have their role in determining
 sanskaars of a person. But that does not mean that someone from unidentified
parentage cannot be Arya. This imaginary casteism is one of the biggest
 reasons for our decadence. We foolishly expurged a large majority of our
 fellow brothers and sisters as Shudras and Achhoots on basis of their
unknown or questionable lineage or family.

2. The Arya has nothing to do with one’s gotra. Hardly any surname today
represents any Gotra. The gotra classification was to do with preventing
marriages between closed relatives.

3. Arya denotes a noble person. Family is only one among many ways to
ascertain if someone is noble. And to say that Shudra cannot become Brahmin
is again blatantly wrong. Brahmin is someone with knowledge. And Shudra
 means someone who could not become Brahmin, Kshatriya or Vaishya due to lack
 of edcation or training. So even a Shudra, after having gained knowledge
through efforts can become Brahmin.

4. Dwija means twice born. From birth everyone is Shudra. But after
 education, Brahmins, Kshatriya and Vaishya take another birth as skilled
humans. In other words, education gives them another birth as civilized
 people worthy of contributing to society. Thus they become Dwija – twice
born. Those who are unable to gain education lose this opportunity of new
birth and hence remain Shudra.

Thus an illiterate son of Brahmin is also shudra. And any shudra, after
having gained knowledge through his or her efforts can become a brahmin,
 vaishya or kshatriya. This has nothing to do with biological birth.

Until we are able to throw away this tail of birth based caste, we can never
 be a united front for vedic empire.

Lets embrace truth and reject the trash.

Arya-And-Castes In Hindu Sanatan Dharma.

is also available in English on http://agniveer.com/9/arya-and-castes/

प्रत्येक श्रेष्ठ और सुसभ्य मनुष्य आर्य है |

अपने आचरण, वाणी और कर्म में वैदिक सिद्धांतों का पालन करने वाले, शिष्ट, स्नेही, कभी पाप कार्य न करनेवाले, सत्य की उन्नति और प्रचार करनेवाले, आतंरिक और बाह्य शुचिता इत्यादि गुणों को सदैव धारण करनेवाले आर्य कहलाते हैं |

ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय, वैश्य और शूद्र यह चार वर्ण वास्तव में व्यक्ति को नहीं बल्कि गुणों को प्रदर्शित करते हैं. प्रत्येक मनुष्य में ये चारों गुण (बुद्धि, बल, प्रबंधन, और श्रम) सदा रहते हैं. आसानी के लिए जैसे आज पढ़ाने वाले को अध्यापक, रक्षा करने वाले को सैनिक, व्यवसाय करने वाले को व्यवसायी आदि कहते हैं वैसे ही पहले उन्हें क्रमशः ब्रह्मण, क्षत्रिय या वैश्य कहा गया और इनसे अलग अन्य काम करने वालों को शूद्र. अतः यह वर्ण व्यवस्था जन्म- आधारित नहीं है|

आजकल प्रचलित कुलनाम ( surname)  लगाने के रिवाज से इन वर्णों का कोई लेना-देना नहीं है | हमारे प्राचीन धर्मग्रन्थ रामायण, महाभारत या अन्य ग्रंथों में भी इस तरह से प्रथम नाम- मध्य नाम- कुलनाम लगाने का कोई चलन नहीं पाया जाता है और न ही आर्य शब्द किसी प्रकार की वंशावली को दर्शाता है|

निस्संदेह, परिवार तथा उसकी पृष्टभूमि का किसी व्यक्ति को संस्कारवान बनाने में महत्वपूर्ण स्थान है परंतु इससे कोई अज्ञात कुल का मनुष्य आर्य नहीं हो सकता यह तात्पर्य नहीं है | हमारे पतन का एक प्रमुख कारण है मिथ्या जन्मना जाति व्यवस्था जिसे हम आज मूर्खता पूर्वक अपनाये बैठे हैं और जिसके चलते हमने अपने समाज के एक बड़े हिस्से को अपने से अलग कर रखा है – उन्हें शूद्र या अछूत का दर्जा देकर – महज इसलिए कि हमें उनका मूल पता नहीं है | यह अत्यंत खेदजनक है |

आर्य शब्द किसी गोत्र से भी सरोकार नहीं रखता | गोत्र का वर्गीकरण नजदीकी संबंधों में विवाह से बचने के लिए किया गया था | प्रचलित कुलनामों का शायद ही किसी गोत्र से सम्बन्ध भी हो |

आर्य शब्द श्रेष्टता का द्योतक है | और किसी की श्रेष्ठता को जांचने में पारिवारिक पृष्ठभूमि कोई मापदंड हो ही नहीं सकता क्योंकि किसी चिकित्सक का बेटा केवल इसी लिए चिकित्सक नहीं कहलाया जा सकता क्योंकि उसका पिता चिकित्सक है, वहीँ दूसरी ओर कोई अनाथ बच्चा भी यदि पढ़ जाए तो चिकित्सक हो सकता है. ठीक इसी तरह किसी का यह कहना कि शूद्र ब्राह्मण नहीं बन सकता – सर्वथा गलत है |

ब्राह्मण का अर्थ है ज्ञान संपन्न व्यक्ति और जो शिक्षा या प्रशिक्षण के अभाव में ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय या वैश्य बनाने की योग्यता न रखता हो – वह शूद्र है |  परंतु शूद्र भी अपने प्रयत्न से ज्ञान और प्रशिक्षण प्राप्त करके वर्ण बदल सकता है | ब्राह्मण वर्ण को भी प्राप्त कर सकता है |

द्विज – अर्थात् जिसने दो बार जन्म लिया हो | जन्म से तो सभी शूद्र समझे गए हैं | ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय और वैश्य इन तीन वर्णों को द्विज कहते हैं क्योंकि विद्या प्राप्ति के उपरांत योग्यता हासिल करके वे समाज के कल्याण में सहयोग प्रदान करते हैं | इस तरह से इनका दूसरा जन्म ‘ विद्या जन्म’ होता है | केवल माता-पिता से जन्म प्राप्त करनेवाले और विद्याप्राप्ति में असफ़ल व्यक्ति इस दूसरे जन्म ‘ विद्या जन्म ‘ से वंचित रह जाते हैं – वे शूद्र हैं |

 अतः यदि ब्राह्मण पुत्र भी अशिक्षित है तो वह शूद्र है और शूद्र भी अपने निश्चय से ज्ञान, विद्या और संस्कार प्राप्त करके ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय या वैश्य बन सकता है | इस में माता- पिता द्वारा प्राप्त जन्म का कोई संबंध नहीं है |

आइए, हम सब सत्य ग्राही बनें, मिथ्या जातिवाद की जकड़ से मुक्त होकर एकात्म और सशक्त समाज तथा राष्ट्र का निर्माण करें | विशेष विश्लेषण के लिए पढ़ें: http://agniveer.com/4034/caste-vedas-hi/

Do Parents Know What is Jihad in Theier Kid’s School. ?


It
is all jihad….It is in your schools Taqiyya , the perversion of islam

Posted by PatriotUSA at 12:37
AM
A school cafeteria is turned into a mosque on Fridays.
Here is a bit of the scenario, “School administration take part preparing the
Cafeteria and making it into mosque every Friday and no one but Muslims can use
the Cafeteria during the Islamic prayers on Friday.” Got that? So no children of
the book, kafir kids or infidel kids can use the cafeteria.
Make sure this is not happening where you children
attend school or something similar regarding islam, is not being waged upon your
children. Do you trust your local schools to give your children a ‘well rounded,
open, honest, ETHICAL education’ without bias or whitewashing the truth about
islam?
 Does the school allow EQUAL opportunity for other ‘true religions’ and
not just some garbage like this from a cult like islam, fueled by hatred and
washed in the blood of innocent victims?
How about a school being quietly and subversively
being sold to become an islamic center, the sale kept from the community?
The  sale never being disclosed to the public until the sale was almost completed?

That happened as well as the above.
It is becoming a reoccurring nightmare all
across America and it is called Islamic JIHAD.
Make no mistake about these events.
Jihad is jihad and islam is a lie.
A lie built upon years and years of  deceit, lies, peddled by islam and the imams who troll in their mosques.
One sermon for the kafirs and infidels. Another sermon for the long time brainwashed
slaves of allah who bow down to the pervert and pedophile mohammad.
Read what follows next and then be sure it does not happen near you or to your loved ones.!
 This is islam, sneaky, lying, and full of deceit, persecution and violence. It is coming and it is here. What will you D0 ?
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Update: The Toronto District School Board Teaches That
Palestinians did not Celebrate 911.
I received this e-mail from Mark Harding. I phoned
Valley Park Middle School, who in a panic directed me to call the TDSB directly
@ 416-397-3000. The TDSB “Communications Dept.” is so far incommunicado -they
are away at a meeting.
….
“Islamic ritual prayers are done in my 13 year old
daughter’s middle school on every Friday.
Every Friday my daughter’s school cafeteria changes
into a mosque as dozens of Muslim boys and their imams (Islamic preachers) lead
Islamic ritual prayers and no one else can even walk through the
cafeteria.
Some imams (Islamic preachers) come from the outside
of the school and lead Muslim students in the Islamic prayer and this happens at
the school Cafeteria after the lunch on Fridays.
All other non-Muslims are in
classes in the afternoon when they are using the cafeteria as mosque. There is a
mosque nearby but the Muslim kids pray in the school
School administration take part preparing the
Cafeteria and making it into mosque every Friday and no one but Muslims can use
the Cafeteria during the Islamic prayers on Friday.
And there are a number of other incidents involving
Islam and other anti-Christian issues that I complained about, including a white
convert to Islam who was a supply teacher and who openly promoted Islam and
bashed Christianity last year!”
The school’s name is: Valley Park Middle School, and
the address is:
130 Overlea Boulevard
Don Mills On, M3C 1B2
Phone: 416 396 2465
Email: ValleyPark@tdsb.on.ca
“Mark, my other two kids also go to a different public
primary school and the snack for all the kids in this primary school is all
“Halal”. My wife complained about it and she was told she can prepare her own
snack for our kids but the school would not drop the Halal menu for all the
students. All the school kids in this primary school have to eat halal snacks
whether they are Muslim or not”
Update: It is confirmed thanks to reader Munimula, the
Valley Park Middle School cafeteria is turned into a mosque and a local Imam is
brought in to lead the children in worshipping Allah:
“Prayer Service, the school is providing a venue for
the Muslim student’s to have prayers at school on Fridays. An Imam from the
neighbouring mosque comes to our school and conducts the prayers. Prior to this,
students signed out early on Friday afternoons to go to mosque. By staying at
school, valuable instructional time is saved for our students.”
The document is also accessible here.

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Michigan Public
School Sneakily Converted To Islamic Center
As you read this, be mindful that it could just as
easily be your community—and probably will be, eventually.
Farmington, Michigan’s Public School Board of
Education voted unanimously to sell their vacant Eagle Elementary School to the
Islamic Cultural Association (ICA) for $1.1 million. The transaction was kept
secret until the sale was nearly (some say clearly) complete. Many in the
community have decried this as an under-handed sale intended to circumvent the
largely Christian and Jewish residents of the immediate area.
Much of the controversy is the ICA’s association with
the HUDA school of Franklin, Michigan—just a few miles away. The HUDA school was
ultimately denied their expansion which was the intended site for the ICA two
years ago. The HUDA school could not satisfactorily reconcile the charge that
they secretly wanted this new structure, in the charming and historic downtown
area, to be a mosque. They refuted the charge despite the fact that their
website, openly but prematurely, celebrated the soon-to-be new Franklin Village
Islamic Center and Mosque. They also failed to explain why cars regularly fill
their parking lot until the wee hours of the morning in this “children’s”
school, particularly on weekends. Another disturbing issue was their refusal to
reveal the source of their funding which many believe to be Saudi-Wahhabi in
origin. More recently but equally disturbing is he HUDA school’s recent
invitation to the highly controversial and pugnacious anti-Israel Jew, Norman
Finkelstein, to speak at their center in this largely Jewish village. So, when
the ICA again claims that they simply desire to have a community center in the
Farmington school for their children—although few Muslims currently live in this
area—many are incredulous and believe this to be just one more example of
Al-Taqiyya.
Al-Taqiyya is the Islamic equivalent to using deceit,
concealment and “tradecraft” in order to advance the cause of Islam. The Qur’an
(16:106, 3:54, 3:28, 40:28) and the Hadith (49:857, 84:64-65) are replete in spelling out the
circumstances when a Muslim can and should deceive infidels for a greater
purpose. Al-Taqiyya must be appreciated if one is to understand the nature of
nonviolent Jihad. In centuries past, Muslims practiced al-Takiyya as a means of
defense and subterfuge against enemies, such as during the Spanish Inquisition.
Today, radical Islam uses this as a necessary tool that extremists living in
non-Muslim lands (Dar al-Harb) utilize to deceive their unsuspecting compatriots
into believing they are assimilating while they are actually engaging in nonviolent Jihad against
their host societies.
Islamic jurisprudence has sanctioned this

deception in modern times as depicted in confiscated al-Qaeda training manuals.
It is said that
al-Takiyya is “in tongue only, not the heart.”
We must not forget the stated mission of the Muslim
Brotherhood which is to penetrate and conquer the infidel lands, most notably,
America.
Read it all, and recall from our post on this takeover
a few weeks ago, the Muslim Brotherhood is indeed involved in this effort.
Hamas-linked CAIR was pictured in the new story and likely representing the
Muslim organization that got the secretive deal, as we noted here, Michigan Islamic Group Cleared To Take Over Elementary
School:
Judging by the photograph included with this story,
residents have every right to be extremely concerned. The terrorist-linked
Muslim group CAIR
is involved in some way with the school, and that does

not bode well for the area. Check back in five to ten years.

Churches, schools, car dealerships, movie theaters,
Ground Zero. It’s all fair game when the goal is for only Allah to be
worshiped.

Ali Sina Speaks and World Listens.


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This interview was originally posted on ThouShallNotBearFalseTestimony.com

One of the most outspoken critics of Islam around the world these days is a Canadian man, Ali Sina, who is formerly a Muslim himself. He runs the Faith Freedom International movement. Ali Sina has some highly controversial positions concerning Islam and American president Barack Obama as well and he has recently come out with a book, Understanding Muhammad, which continues to stir things up. I found this man to be extremely provocative as well as interesting so I asked him for an interview so that he could share his own insight as to what Islam is at base and what is going on in the world today. The communication flowed as follows…

Gary Dale Cearley: Could you let us know a little about yourself and your background?

Ali Sina: I was born in a Muslim family. Today no one in my immediate family is a Muslim and I know that many of my extended family that is still living in Iran, like most Iranians, have either left Islam or are in the process of doing so. Many Iranians have just ceased to believe in Islam.

Since childhood, injustice harrowed my soul. I became vegan because cruelty pains me. Scenes of cruelty affect me profoundly. They still do, as they did when I was a child. Many young people react to injustice by becoming revolutionaries. They choose violent means to combat injustice and hence bring more injustice and violence to the world. I prayed to become an instrument of peace. To bring love where there is hate; understanding, where there is confusion; peace, where there is discord. That was of course all wishful thinking, when I myself was confused, trapped in a bubble of lies.

I pondered upon injustice and I believed it is caused by greed. Later I came to understand a lot of evil is committed, because of beliefs in evil doctrines. To quote Blaise Pascal, “Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.”

When I read the Quran, the whole meaning of Pascal’s words became apparent. It was then that I decided the time for prayer is over and the time for action has begun. Of course this awakening did not happen overnight. It took me two years of study, inner fight and soul searching. I was taken from denial to shock, and then to guilt and to confusion, to depression and to anger and finally to enlightenment, forgiveness and inner peace. It was an arduous odyssey, but worth making.

I started writing about my findings on the internet and more enlightened ex-Muslims joined. Our little trickle became a torrent and now we are a movement, bringing about a silent revolution, not with violence, but through understanding, by explaining the unexplained and spreading knowledge.

We have helped thousands of Muslims to discover the fallacy of Islam and join the rest of humanity in amity. My childhood prayer has come true. I have become an instrument of peace and I am not alone. We are now a legion that has risen to demolish the darkness of ignorance with the light of knowledge.

Gary Dale Cearley: You have written a book, Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet. Tell us about it.

Ali Sina: The book, as its title says, delves into the motives behind the actions of Muhammad. Muhammad is an enigma. He did many things that make one believe he was sincere. He gave the impression that he believed to be a prophet, while at the same time he was ruthless, cunning, and evil. So how can you explain this oxymoron? Was he a liar? If so how could he be so convinced?

In my book, Understanding Muhammad, I give a brief account of his biography. Muhammad’s life story is covered in many books and one can learn it from original sources called Sira. The concern of my book is the psychology of Muhammad.

Understanding Muhammad does not focus on “what,” but rather on “why.” Instead of narrating what Muhammad did or say, it explains the mental impulses that led him to act in the way he did.

I have shown that Muhammad suffered from a series of morbidities, mental, and personality disorders that collectively explain the phenomenon known as Islam. Once you understand the psychological makeup of Muhammad and the milieu in which he operated, you’ll come to see that Islam was almost inevitable.

The book does exactly what it claims. It makes the reader understand Muhammad and Islam. It has received encouraging reviews. Sam Vaknin, the author of Malignant Self-love wrote, “Understanding Muhammad offers an explanatory scheme. One “a-ha” moment chases another as things fall into place and a causative chain emerges leading all the way from medieval founder to his current day followers and emulators.” Once you read the book, you’ll not only understand Muhammad, but Muslims too.

This book has been read by many Muslims, who first wrote to me to prove I am mistaken. I challenged them to read the book and now many of them are my strong allies. I believe once the insight that this book offers spreads, Islam will become history and with it Islamic terrorism will ceases to exist.

Gary Dale Cearley: As you have become apostate in the eyes of Muslims, I am interested in what kinds of threats have you had from the Muslim community and from where have the threats come?

Ali Sina: When you leave Islam threats come from all directions. Your apostasy offends every Muslim who will each attack you in their own way. Some Muslims want to kill you but not every Muslim is a murderer. Those who do not issue a death threat snub you, pity you, and vilify you. I was informed that there are two fatwas to kill me from two mullahs in India. There was also a price put on my head: One million rupees. This is only $20,000 dollars. I was a bit disappointed. I thought I am worth more, but hey, it is more than 30 silver coins for which Christ was sold.

Gary Dale Cearley: What changes have you undergone within your own family since you renounced Islam?

Ali Sina: Not much really. My family was not fanatical. We were among those deluded believers who think Islam means peace and the terrorists have got it all wrong. It was quite a surprise for me to read the Quran and see that it were we who got it all wrong and the terrorists are just doing what a good Muslims is supposed to do.

The majority of Muslims belong to this category. They are deluded and think Islam is peaceful. They condemn the so called extremists. However, the truth is that the extremists are the ones who understand Islam best and the moderates don’t. The moderates believe in a benign form of Islam that is made up by them and has nothing to do with the Islam of Muhammad.

Gary Dale Cearley: Are you open with Muslims about having turned your back on Islam as a religion?

Ali Sina: I am not in contact with them anymore.

Gary Dale Cearley: If you could come face-to-face with Osama Bin Laden and Ayman Al Zawahiri, what would you like to tell them?

Ali Sina: The only message I would like to deliver to those beasts is a bullet in their sculls. My message to all Muslims is that Islam is a lie and they should not kill people or sacrifice their own lives for a lie. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but they all harbor distrust, if not hatred of non-Muslims, to the extent that they practice Islam.

Esfandiar Rahim Mashai, former vice president of Iran, with Pope Benedict XVI
 Islam is a faith that is built on hate. Without an enemy Islam loses its raison d’être. A good example to make is what happened recently in Iran. Ahmadinijad, the man who stole the elections appointed [Esfandiar Rahim] Mashai, a relative by marriage, as his vice president. Mashai’s nomination angered the hardliners and Khamanei was humiliated his own handpicked and protégée president and ordered him to dump Mashai. Why? Because last year Mashai said, “Iranians are friends of all people in the world — even Israelis.” He was serving as vice president in charge of tourism and cultural heritage at the time.”

By making this comment, even though he really did not mean it as he is part of the Islamic regime and shares the same hatred of Israel, Mashai had undermined the legitimacy of the Islamic republic that is founded on hatred and needs perpetual enemies for its own sustenancef. Not only that, he also undermined the legitimacy of Islam that is founded on hatred of non-Muslims and particularly the Jews. Islam needs enemies to survive. The hatred must be kept alive. Sigmund Freud wrote in Civilization and Its Discontents, “It is always possible to bind together a considerable number of people in love, so long as there are other people left over to receive the manifestations of their aggressiveness”

Muslims are united, as long as there are non-Muslims to hate. But once among themselves they will start fighting over who is a true believer and will target their hatred towards those who interpret Islam differently. As long as Islam is believed to be a religion of God the hatred will continue and the killing and wars will not end. So, really there is no other option but to expose the fallacy of Islam and wean Muslims from Islam.

This message cannot be heard by hardened terrorists. This message is for ordinary Muslims who don’t know the truth about Islam, who will be shocked to learn it. This mass of moderate Muslims is the backbone of Islamic jihad. The Jihadis come from these very ordinary Muslims and are supported by them both morally and financially. If we can make these Muslims see the truth Islamic terrorism will end.

Islamic terrorism is the fruit of Islam. It’s the tree that has to be eradicated. As long as this tree is in place it will continue to produce bitter fruits.

Gary Dale Cearley: How has the non-Muslim community accepted you?

Ali Sina: There is no problem with the non-Muslim community. Non-Muslims do not have the concept of “us vs. them” that is so intrinsic in Islamic psyche. I live in Canada. We are a nation of immigrants. We are all equals and asking someone about his or her religion is considered to be rude. No one cares what you believe. In Canada I am just another Canadian.

There are Muslims who feel alienated in Western countries. That is because they choose not to integrate. They want to wear their backward Islamic clothing, cover their women in black bed sheets, eat differently, act differently, think differently and denigrate the culture and the country where they live. It is natural not to be accepted if you are obnoxious. We have large communities of Hindus and Sikhs in Canada that are fully integrated, and are the backbone of the Canadian economy while Muslims, coming from the same neck of the woods, do not integrate. It is their fault that they don’t integrate. Western countries are open to all and sundry. People here are not prejudiced. They are learning to dislike Muslims and who can blame them?

Gary Dale Cearley: What advice do you have for Barack Obama and other leaders of Western nations in dealing with radical Islam?

Ali Sina: My advice to Barack Obama is to pack up and seek refuge in Kenya before Americans discover you are a fraud and a traitor.

This man is on a mission to destroy America. Polls show Americans are waking up and are realizing the big mistake they have committed. Obama is in office not because of his merits, but because of the white guilt. He hated America all his life. Tell me who are your friends and I will tell you who you are. Who were the friends of Obama? Jeremiah Write, Bill Ayer, Louis Farrakhan, Rashid Khalidi, Tony Rezko, and a bunch of other goons!

Who were his mentors when he was growing up? The pedophile Frank Marshal Davis and the black supremacist Malcolm X! I do not give advices to the enemies of America.

However, if America had a legitimate president, my advice would be ban Islam and make the practice of Sharia illegal.

During the Cold War America banned communism because communism was a threat to the Constitution of America. President Truman introduced the Federal Employee Loyalty Program (FELP) in 1947 aimed at combating security risks from working for the Federal Government. Every person taking on a new job in the civil service or government had to be investigated.

Congress set up the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC) that investigated Communist involvement in the film industry, education, unions and the government. A couple, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were convicted of espionage and selling nuclear secrets to the Soviets during the WW2 and rightly were executed. Yes, excesses were also committed. But it is a mistake to condemn America’s resolve to fight against its internal enemies because of those excesses.

Abdul Qadeer Khan made the “Islamic Bomb” possible…
 Maybe because of those excesses Americans have become guilt ridden to the extent that they have lost the will to defend their country in the face of a real threat. Remember how Pakistan got its nuclear bomb? It was because Abdul Qadeer Khan, a Muslim, was allowed to join the staff of the Physical Dynamics Research Laboratory (FDO) in the Netherlands and from there he stole the technology and went back to Pakistan to build the “Islamic bomb.” Muslims allegiance is only to Islam. You cannot trust them in sensitive jobs.

This July the Islamic extremist organization Hizb-ut-Tahrir, (Liberation Party) hosted its first organized conference in the United States, titled “Fall of Capitalism and Rise of Islam.” The conference, attended by 700 people, was hosted in Hilton Hotel in Chicago. Amazingly Hilton rejected an event featuring Geert Wilders, the Dutch parliamentarian that is fighting against Islamic expansion in the Europe. The goal of Hizb-ut-Tahrir is to overthrow the governments of the world and establish the caliphate, allegedly through non violent means. This group is banned in most Islamic countries, but it is allowed to operate in the USA and to openly promote the abolition of the American Constitution.

These people are right here in America and are given full immunity to plot the destruction of America. If there was a patriotic president in office, I would have told him to ban all Islamic groups that work against America and its constitution. But we don’t have a patriotic president. We have a racist man who hated America all his life and is doing everything he can to weaken its Judeo-Christian base and open the floodgate to Muslims. His bow and genuflection to the Saudi King, the head of the Wahhabi school of Islam should tell us everything about where Obama’s loyalty lies.

Anyone with commonsense knows that Islam is in war with America. What does Obama do? He appoints two devout Muslims to Homeland Security Posts.

Arif Alikhan, Assistant Secretary for Policy Development at the Department of Homeland Security
 Arif Alikhan is a devout Sunni Muslim. As assistant secretary for the Office of Policy Department of Homeland Security, Mr. Alikhan was instrumental in taking down the LA Police Department’s plan to monitor its Muslim community. He is affiliated with MPAC, the “Muslim Public Affairs Council”. This is like putting the fox in charge of the hen coop. Americans must prepare themselves for more terrorist attacks and the responsibility falls on Obama and of course every one of those who voted for this traitor.

Now, I don’t blame Obama. He is doing what he had dreamt to do since his youth and that is to destroy America. My wonder is at Americans who have handed their country to a buffoon enemy. Obama is not an intellectual. He is stupid. Obama lied and he deceived the gullible people. That is where narcissists excel. They are charming and convincing liars. We all commit mistakes. But why now that the truth has come out and it is clear that this impostor is working against America he is not sacked? Obama is not a legitimate president. Don’t let the biased lame stream media fool you. Facts are out there for those who care to study them. Obama should be brought to justice, tried and preferably electrocuted for high treason.

Anyway, back to your question: America has to confront Islam, recognize it as a hostile ideology and educate the public of the threat that it poses.

Gary Dale Cearley: Lots of people, from the man on the street to sociologists to politicians, have expressed concern regarding the growth of Muslim immigration to the West. Should they be concerned and if so what concerns should they have?

Omar Ahmad of CAIR
Ali Sina: Yes, they should be concerned. Muslims are not like other immigrants. They don’t want to integrate in your melting pot, but to conquer the country through demographic and warfare. Let us hearken to Omar Ahmad, Co-Founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, who said

“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth…”

“Fighting for freedom, fighting for Islam, that is not suicide, …They kill themselves for Islam.”

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“ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD”. IS IT ?


Dr Zakir Naik

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SOME TIMES BY ; SAM HINDU

“Follow the right path, irrespective of how many people are with you. Don’t reject the truth even if you are alone and whole world is against you, because in the end, it is only truth, which will prevail”
Rigveda

  I wrote an article on Face Book about a  Muhammad: A Cult Leader leader http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=454895685699#!/note.php?note_id=404635110699&comments which was originally written on my Blog Muhammad: A Cult Leader or Muslims are struck in a cult. and after this  note I had a debate with one of reader and he claimed about  Muslims AND Islam that…

   “ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD”. IS IT ?

  So let me answer that statement in details.

 As Christianity is currently the largest religion in the world, this would mean that at least some point in time Christianity was the fastest growing religion in the world. Does this mean that Christianity is still the one true religion OR was it only the one true religion during the centuries when it was the fastest growing?

Since in the early and mid 20th century, atheism was the fastest growing “belief” in the world, does that mean that there was no God during those decades?

If pork consumption becomes the fastest growing dietary trend in the world, does that mean that God is trying to tell mankind that pork is God’s choice of meat?

  Islam is claimed to be the fastest growing religion by the new cult of Islam and his puppet Dr.  Zakir Naik and his followers. Large section of people inspired by the new messenger can be seen indulged in debating others over the issue of fastest rate of growth of Islam.

  Interestingly, on one hand, Mullahs in countries like India are assuring the people of other faiths about trueness of Islam through their own census, on the other hand, in Muslim countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc, murderer  warriors are killing their fellow Moslims for not being true Muslims!

  But, one thing, which makes Islam different from others, is the spectrum of its preachers starting from Mullahs proving Islam through peaceful speeches to Osamas and Kasabs, who implement the peaceful teachings of Islam through their peaceful actions! That’s a part, today, we shall analyze the claims of Moslims about Islam to be the fastest growing religion.

  We will pick one by one the claims of Muslims on why Islam is from God, which we have come across quite often, and will scrutinize those in two ways. Comment “a” below every claim will examine it by assuming the claim to be true. Comment “b” will contain the reality of the claim, whether it is right or wrong.

Islam is best and the only religion from God because…

Claim 1: it has the following of over 1.5 billion and in few years, Islam will become no. 1 surpassing Christianity.

(a).
(i) Still the majority is with Christians! If number is the criterion of being best, Christianity is better than Islam. Moreover, we can generalize this logic and say that, since non muslims are 5.5 billions (almost 4 times the muslims), non muslims are better and hence Islam is not from God!

 According to Zakir Naik, sinners in the world are increasing. Readers can watch one of his videos answering a question about reincarnation. This is evident from the deeds of people as well. Everyone can see the moral values going down. People have become more selfish and they are no longer ardent devotees of God, as they happened to be in the past.  

    People are not as truthful as the people of past era used to be. So, the number logic says that lies, selfishness, immorality, and atheism are from God as they are practiced the most! Also, sins and Islam both are increasing simultaneously as per Zakir Naik. So, if one is from God because it is increasing, other would also be from God by the same logic. Wise will conclude the rest!

(iii) What about the time when Muhammad started preaching his philosophy? His religion was neither in majority nor was its rate higher. Should not then Islam automatically fails to qualify the majority/highest rate test at least in past?

 Just like Islam today is claimed to have high growth rate, idolatry was at boom some few thousand years ago. Isn’t then idolatry from God? And everything, which either was/is in majority or had/has highest growth rate should be from God by this logic!

  (v) Since number is so important for Muslims, then, is it not strange that they believe in just One God and one prophet? Why are not polytheists better than Muslims since they believe in more Gods? Or is it that number logic works opposite here? Can anyone enlighten us, in which case this number logic works, in which, it gets reversed, and in which it does not work at all?

 (b). Islam will become number one for sure in terms of population. But the reason behind this is not the people converting to Islam but higher number of babies muslims produce. It is evident from the fact that muslim countries have highest growth rates, which is the result of high birth rates rather than any conversion, since all are already muslims there with nobody to convert.

  Claim 2: more and more people are coming to Islam
(a).
(i) Logic of majority/high growth rate has been examined above.
(ii) Islam is the comfort zone for the people fond of lust.  
Was Islam’s “perfect man” sexually restrained? Thus people with lower character accept this opportunity to enjoy 72 virgins forever.Understanding Muhammad & 😉 His Women Sex Slaves. 

 This is the main reason behind most of the conversions to Islam. Muhammad’s Evil Tactics of ‘Virgins in Paradise’ for deceiving Youths http://www.facebook.com/?sk=2347471856#!/note.php?note_id=454895680699

  Moreover, Islam provides complete package of 4 wives and innumerable concubines to the males in this world itself. This makes Islam favorite for many, who are in search of moral justification to have extra marital relationships!

(iii) It’s true that more and more people are accepting Islam but at the same time, many are leaving it too. If accepting Islam by people is seen as truthfulness of it, why not leaving Islam by many people is a proof of its falsehood?

  (b). Zakir Naik says that don’t judge a car by its driver. Thus we should look down to Islamic scriptures to know Islam and not see what the people say or do. One will be called as a muslim only when he does Fard (duty) as per Quran and Hadith.

  (i) Today, most of the muslims of Indian sub continent (I am not sure about other muslim countries) worship graves. and Dead Bodies, Nijamuddin Auliya in Delhi, Moinuddin Chishti in Ajmer, Haji Ali in Mumbai, and many others like these are visited by muslims in huge numbers, making these the largest gatherings of muslims anywhere in the world after Hajj.  

   But according to Quran, grave worship is Shirk and Shirk is the only sin, which will not be forgiven! Thus most of the people, who think they are muslims but actually they are not, will go to hell!

  (ii) Praying 5 times a day and fasting in the month of Ramadan is also the duty of a muslim.THIS IS WHAT ALL MUSLIMS RECITE ALL DAY IN THEIR FIVE DAILY SALATS AND FREE TIME  Can Zakir Bhai tell us how many of so-called muslims are actual muslims as per the above condition?

  (iii) Many hadith say that a muslims should not dress like Kafirs. Many places, it is written that a man’s dress should not hang beneath the ankle. If it is, the man will not be entertained by Allah on the day of resurrection! And interestingly, modern-day cult leader  of many muslims,  Zakir himself dresses like Kafirs (wears suit and tie), which has been called Haram by Muhammad!
(iv) Muhammad ordered muslims to grow beard.
The Bearded And Moslim But today, we see hardly any muslim except madrasa bred Mullahs having beard.
In short, it can be concluded from the above points that a muslim is the one, who does not do grave worship, does offer prayers five times a day, fasts for whole month of Ramdan, does not wear cloths like Kafirs i.e. pants, shirts, suit, tie etc, does not wear garment which hangs beneath the ankle, has beard as per Islamic norms etc. And the one, fails to do any one of the above, will burn in hell forever!
There would hardly be few million people, who actually follow the above norms. If this is the case, Islam is actually the fastest declining religion today and has least number of followers among all religions!

  Claim 3: Quran is the most read book of its time
(a). This is yet another logic which many muslims used to give. Again, by this logic, Quran cannot be said as word of God because it was not read as much as other books like Vedas used to be in the past. And today, books like Harry Potter, five point someone etc are read by crores of people, which by number logic, should be from God!

   One can ask that we are discussing religious scriptures and not the fantasy books or novels and hence Quran cannot be compared with these books. But, we should remember that Quran too is full of the stories of angels, Jinns, Satan, flying donkey, splitting of moon, birth of a baby without father, weeping of trees, stones talking to man, sky as roof supported by invisible pillars, seven skies, heaven, hell, pre decided fates etc.

  So, for a sensible person, there is hardly any difference between Quran and the stories of Ali Baba Chalis Chor! We have categorically analyzed Quran in our previous articles and we have shown that why cannot Quran be from God. Readers are requested to go through the articles listed under the section “analysis of Islam” in our site.

(b). Indeed, Quran is the most read book in the name of religion, but it is the most hated book of its time as well! So, it cannot be from God since its haters are more than its lovers.

  Claim 4: Quran is the only text on the face of the earth, which is free from any tampering
(a). By this logic, every article on this Blog  is from God, and SAM HINDU is Profate  since no tampering whatsoever has been done in my writing.

  (b). Actually, this claim of muslims regarding perfectness of Quran is a hoax. There is a dispute among muslim scholars regarding the exact number of verses in Quran. Everyone knows that Shia muslims consider this current Quran to be incomplete and they believe in a Quran, which they say original, which is composed of 17000 verses, but is not available today.

   In other sects of Islam, some people estimate about 6236 verses, some say 6349, some even claim 6666! Many even say that some verses were from Satan instead of Allah! After this much of contravention, how can one claim Quran to be free from any interpolation?

   Moreover, current Quran was compiled much later after the death of Muhammad by his followers, who were fighting each other to spread the message of religion of peace!. In these circumstances, who can believe in the claims of Quran to be unchanged from its beginning?

  Claim 5: many fake Hindu saints  like self-proclaimed title of  Shankaracharya of Banaras  has openly announced Muhammad to be the last prophet and Quran to be the final word for whole humanity.

 (a).
(i) First of all, we would like to know, can a Hindu Shankaracharya, who is a Kafir and believes in idol worship, become source of inspiration for muslims to believe in Islam? If that be so, why not idol worship be accepted by muslims as holy work since Shankaracharya does it?
(ii) Bringing a Hindu preacher in an Islamic gathering is itself against the doctrines of Islam. So, the muslims including Zakir Naik should do Tauba for committing this sin. Since muslims are not to believe in the words of Kafir, Shankaracharya should not be taken seriously in the matters of Deen! Hence Islam is not from God.

 Why do Moslims need other religion Priest and Saints to acknowledge and promote and propaganda  Islam ?  it means you as a Moslim you don’t trust your own scriptures and message.

  A clarification and correction on fake Shankaracharya.

  (b). There is no Shankar Math and hence no Shankaracharya in Banaras by the way!

  Claim 6: many famous scientists have embraced Islam.

  (a). All the scientists were/are non muslims. Thus, if scientists are to be followed, Islam is not from God!
(b). The fame of those famous scientists is yet to reach non muslims and intellectuals! We are trying to
contact IRF regarding these famous (?) scientists but have got no response.

  Claim 7: Islam is being accepted by many people in west. Number of women converting to Islam is higher than men. This is the biggest proof that Islam gives highest respect to women. Understanding Muhammad & 😉 His Women Sex Slaves.
(a). People of west do many more things like drinking, open sex, multiple partners for both man and woman etc. Do Moslims accept these deeds also right? If not, how can the decision of such people accepting Islam be said right? Hence Islam is not from God! In Pakistan, women are called awra. or Aurat means Vagina..

(b). People of west are really coming to Islamic ideology! That is why Zakir Naik has been banned from even entering in Canada and UK. May be, westerns have become so much Islamic that they don’t require outside preachers preach Islam anymore!

  Claim 8: Miracle of Kaba being center of the earth has been proven scientifically.
(a). If Kaba is at the center, how does it prove trueness of Islam? Kaba was built by Ibrahim, who was the father of Jewish people. Should not then this miracle of Kaba being the center of earth proves trueness of Judaism instead of Islam?

  Kaba was a Hindu temple and i have written an article on my Face Book Notes.http://www.facebook.com/?sk=2347471856#!/note.php?note_id=454895680699

  (b).
(i)Anyway, this is the most foolish thing one can claim! Earth is almost spherical and its center lies inside it. How can Kaba be at the center? Can the center of a sphere lie on its surface? Even if one talks about the surface, every point on the surface of a sphere is geometrically same.

   Then what is so special about Kaba?
(ii) The scientists, who claimed it, must be Madarsa alumni because science has not become advanced enough to shift the center of gravity of earth from its center to its surface! Of course, Madarsas have the technology of “Kun Fayakun”, which is unique solution to every problem and above all, Allah knows the best!

 Claim 9: Miracles of Allah are seen even in animals and birds. For example many goats, cows have been found to have name of Allah and Muhammad written on their backs. Many crows, dogs, and donkeys have been seen to call “Allah Allah”. One can type “miracles of Islam” in youtube and find hundreds of such videos.

  (a). It seems that the testimonies of famous (?) scientists, Moulvis, and Shankaracharya were not enough to prove Islam best. Hence people have started giving testimonies of animals in order to show superiority of Islam. Wise choose the path, which other wiser people have chosen. But in Islam, it is other way round. Muslims argue that we should accept Islam because animals say “Allah Allah”!

  Again the question arises, can deeds of animals be the bench mark for humans? If that be so, why do muslims wear cloths, go to schools/Madarsas, accept the marriage bond, work in offices, wash hands, take bath….? Moreover not all animals say Allah! So again, by number logic, Islam is not from God! Anyway, we give advice to Zakir and his followers, not to follow animals, but follow intelligent.

 (b). In reality, the videos of such miracles of Allah are nothing more than the laughter shows! Readers can themselves see those videos and get a heavy dose of laughter. Those videos are even more entertaining than those of stage performer Zakir Naik. All I can say, it is the biggest mockery of Islam and Allah by muslims themselves in the name of miracles.

  Claim 10: People are leaving other religions to accept Islam but no muslim leaves Islam.
(a). This is obvious as Islam orders to kill the one, who leaves it. This is the reason why is Islam a one way trap, in which one can enter but cannot come out. Biggest reason behind this is the coward mentality of muslims of not allowing non muslims to preach in their countries. One can see heights of fanaticism of Muslims that they want freedom of speech in every country and they enjoy converting others. But they don’t have guts to let others preach their religion among muslims.

 (b). This claim is false though! There have been great scholars within Islam, who openly criticized many doctrines of it. For example, Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, the biggest Islamic educationist of India, founder of Aligarh Muslim University, openly denied the existence of Satan. He criticized many other beliefs as well and as a result, fatwa was issued that he is a Kafir!

  Anwar Shaikh, another eminent scholar of Islam from Pakistan, calls Islam, “The Arab Imperialism”! He was cremated instead of burying as per his wish to die as Vedic follower. He was very proud of his Vedic culture and ancestors.

  Another notable scholar from Pakistan is Ghulam Jelani Barq, who completely rejected the hadith! He was also listed as Kafir by the mullahs.

 Today, Ali Sina, Parvin Darabi, Wafa Sultan, Parvez Hoodbhoy, Tariq Ali, Imam Mehboob Ali, and many more are criticizing Islam greater than any non muslim. They all were born in Islamic families. So according to this logic, Islam is false because many scholars have left it!

After analyzing these claims, we can conclude that fanatics like Zakir Naik are spreading the hoax of Islamic superioritySuperiority complex is a mask to hide one’s inferiority complex. ( Islamic invention )  based on their own false census of highest conversion rate. People are being fooled by the so-called experts of comparative religion in the name of childish logic, self created census, and science.

We have seen that how mocking was it to claim Islam best because some animals said “Allah Allah”. In the end, we request everyone to think rationally and then take a decision. Crowded place should not be the destination of intellectuals. Rather, it should be based on logic and morality.

  “Follow the right path, irrespective of how many people are with you. Don’t reject the truth even if you are alone and whole world is against you, because in the end, it is only truth, which will prevail”
Rigveda

References ;

   https://samhindu.wordpress.com/ 

   http://agniveer.com/1624/islam-the-fastest-growing-religion/

  http://www.faithfreedom.org/

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The Scientific Dating of the Mahabharat War 4th Dec. 7571


  5561 BC +2010 AC  =  7571                                                       

The Scientific Dating of the Mahabharat War

By Dr.P.V.Vartak

<< Index

 

Introduction

Inscriptions

Aihole inscription

Borala Hisse inscription of Deva Sena

Greek records

Shrimad bhagwat

Yudhishtira Era and Kaliyug

Saptarishis

Equinox

Astrology

Archeaology

The exact date of Mahabharat War

Saturn

Rahu

Jupiter

Mars

Heliocentric and geocentric

Leap year

Uranus

Neptune

Pluto

Additional evidence

Conclusion

Appendix

References

Introduction

The Mahabharat has excercised a continuous and pervasive influence on the Indian mind for milleniums. The Mahabharat, orginally written by Sage Ved Vyas in Sanskrut, has been translated and adapted into numerous languages and has been set to a variety of interpretations. Dating back to “remote antiquity”, it is still a living force in the life of the Indian masses.

Incidently, the dating of the Mahabharat War has been a matter of challenge and controversy for a century or two. European scholars have maintained that the events described in the ancient Sanskrut texts are imaginary and subsequently, the Mahabharat derived to be a fictitiou tale of a war fought between two rivalries. Starting from the so- called Aryan invasion into Bharat, the current Bharatiya chronology starts from the compilation of the Rigved in 1200 B.C., then come other Ved’s, Mahaveer Jain is born, then Gautam Buddha lives around 585 B.C. and the rest follows. In the meantime, the Brahmanas, Samhi- tas, Puranas, etc. are written and the thought contained therein is well-absorbed among the Hindu minds. Where does the Ramayan and Mahabharat fit in ? Some say that the Ramayan follows Mahabharat and some opine otherwise. In all this anarchy of Indian histography, the date of the Mahabharat (the mythical story!) ranges between 1000 B.C.to 300 B.C. Saunskrut epics were academically attacked occasion- ally – an attempt to disprove the authencity of the annals noted therein. For example, the European Indologiest Maxmuller, tried the interpret the astronomical evidences to prove that the observations recorded in the Hindu scriptures are imaginary, probably because it did not match the prevelant views of European historians!

On the contrary, many Bharatiya scholars have vehemently maintained the actual occurance of the Mahabharat War. Astronomical and literary evidences or clues from the Pauranic and Vaidik texts have been deci- phered to provide a conclusive date for the Mahabharat War. The fifth century mathematician, Aryabhatta, calculated the date of the Mahabharat War to be approximately 3100 B.C. from the planetary posi- tions recorded in the Mahabharat. Prof. C.V. Vaidya and Prof. Apte had derived the date to be 3101 B.C. and Shri. Kota Venkatachalam reckoned it to be 3139 B.C. However, the astronomical data used by the above, and many other, scholars contained some errors as examined by a scho- lar from Pune, Dr. P.V. Vartak. Using astronomical references and variety of other sources, Dr. Vartak has derived the date of the ini- tiation of the Mahabharat War to be 16th October 5561 B.C. This pro- posed date has been examined by a few scholars and has been verfied. This may prove to be a break-through in deciding the chronology of the events in the history of Bharat (and probably the World).

In the following few posts, I have made an attempt to provide a glance at the proofs provided by Dr. Vartak in propounding the date of the very important landmark in the history of Bharat (World?), i.e., Mahabharat War. Only major points have been extracted from two sources: Dr.P.V. Vartak’s Marathi book “Swayambhu” and “Scientific Dating of the Mahabharat War” in English.

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Inscriptions

Some scholars rely on the various inscriptions found in the temples and elsewhere to fix the date of Mahabharat War. If there is no other alternative then this method is tolerable, otherwise it is not reli- able because all the known inscriptions are dated as far back as 400 AD. Those who prepared those inscriptions were not conversant with the scientific methods available now in the modern Science Age. So, why should we depend on the conjectures of the ancient people? Why not use scientific methodology to come to the conclusion ourselves? I will prefer the use of the modern scientific ways to fix the date of Mahabharat War rather than to rely on the Inscriptions which are vague and inconclusive. Let us examine two famous inscriptions always quoted by the scholars.

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Aihole inscription

All the scholars have relied on this inscription found in the Jain Temple at Aihole prepared by one Chalukya King Pulakeshi. It says, according to scholars, that the temple was constructed in 30+3000+700+5 = 3735 years, after the Bharat War and 50+6+500 = 556 years of Shaka era in Kali era. Today Shaka era is 1910. Hence 1910- 556 = 1354 years ago the temple was constructed. Thus the year of inscribing this note is 634 AD. At this time 3735 years had passed from the Bharat War. So the date of the War comes to 3101 BC. This is also the date of Kali Yuga Commencement. Naturally, it is evident that relying on the beginning of Kaliyuga Era and holding that the War took place just before the commencement of Kaliyuga, this inscription is prepared. It is obvious from the Mahabharat that the War did not happen near about the beginning of Kaliyuga. (I have considered this problem fully at a later stage.) If we can see that the inscription is prepared by relying on some false assumption, we have to neglect it because it has no value as an evidence. Moreover the interpretation done by the scholars is doubtful because they have not considered the clauses separately and they held Bharat War and Kali Era as one and the same.

The verse inscribed is :

Trinshatsu Trisahasreshu Bhaaratdahavaditaha | Saptabda Shatayukteshu Gateshwabdeshu Panchasu | Panchashatasu Kalaukale Shatasu Panchashatsu cha | Samatsu Samatitasu Shakaanamapi Bhoobhujaam ||

I would like to interprete the verse considering the clauses of the verse. It says “3030 years from the Bharat War” in the first line, ( Trinshatsu Trisahasreshu Bhaaratdahavaaditaha) where the first clause oF the sentence ends. in the second line, the second clause starts and runs upto the middle of the third line thus ( Saptabda…..Kalaukale) This means 700+5+50 = 755 years passed in the Kali Era. The remaining third clause is ( Shatasu

Here the verse does not specifically say the Shalivahan Shaka but Scholars have taken granted that it is Shalivahan Shaka without any base or reasoning. The verse may have mentioned some other Shaka kings from ancient era. So we we neglect the doubtful part of the Shaka counting which is useless and adhere to the Kali era expressly mentioned. It is clear from the former portion of the verse that 3030 years passed from the Bharat War and 755 years passed from Kali Era. Kali Era started from 3101 BC. 755 years have passed so 3101-755 = 2346 BC is the year when 3030 years had passed from the Bharat War. So 2346+3030 = 5376 BC appears to be the date of Bharat War.

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Hisse Borala inscription of Deva Sena

This inscription is of 5th century AD and scholars hold that it throws light on the time of Mahabharat War. It states. that Saptarshis were in Uttara at the time of this inscription. Scholars hold that Saptarshis were in Magha at the time of Yudhishthira because Varahmihira has stated so in Brihat-Samhita. Scholars also hold that Yudhishthira’s time is 3137 BC. Saptarshis stay in one Nakshtra for 100 years, and there are 27 Nakshatras. Hence Saptarshis would be again in Magha 2700 years later during 4th century BC. From here if we count upto 5th century AD there fall eight Nakshatras. Hence in the 5th century AD, Saptarshis should be in Anuradha and not Uttara. From Anuradha to Uttara Ashadha there is adifference of five Naksha- tras, while from Anuradha to Uttara Phalguni there is a difference of six Nakshatras. So it is quite evident that at the time of Yudhisthira Saptarshis were not in Magha as held by the scholars. Here I have shown a mistake of five to six hundreds of years. More- over, there are three ‘Uttaras’ and the inscription has not stated specifically which Uttara it denotes. Thus this source is unreliable and should be rejected.

I have considered Saptarshi Reckoning in details at a later stage on page 11. While going to examine the sources scientifically, I shall give the honour of the first place to Astronomy. One may question that how far Astronomy was advanced in those olden days? I say affir- matively that Astronomy was far advanced in the ancient times, and the ancient Indian sages had perfected the science of time measure- ment relying on Astronomy.

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Greek records

1. “The Greek Ambassodor Magasthenis has recorded that 138 generations have passed between Krishna and Chandragupta Maurya. Many scholars have taken this evidence, but taking only 20 years per generation they fixed the date of Krishna as 2760 years before Chandragupta. But this is wrong because the record is not of ordinary people to take 20 years per generation. In the matter of general public, one says that when a son is born a new generation starts. But in the case of kings, the name is included in the list of Royal Dynasty only after his corona- tion to the throne. Hence, one cannot allot 20 years to one king. We have to find out the average per king by calculating on various Indian Dynasties. I have considered 60 kings from various dynasties and calculated the average of each king as 35 years. Here is a list of some of important kings with the no. of years ruling.

Chandragupta Mourya 330-298 B.C. 32 years
Bindusar 298-273 B.C. 25 years
Ashok 273-232 B.C. 41 years
Pushyamitra Shunga 190-149 B.C. 41 years
Chandragupta Gupta 308-330 A.D. 22 years
Samudragupta 330-375 A.D. 45 years
Vikramaditya 375-414 A.D. 39 years
Kumargupta 414-455 A.D. 41 years
Harsha 606-647 A.D. 41 years
    327 years

The average is 327/9 = 36.3 years.

Multiplying 138 generations by 35 years we get 4830 years before Chan- dragupta Mourya. Adding Chandrgupta’s date 320 B.C. to 4830 we get 5150 B.C. as the date of Lord Krishna.

2. Megasthenis, according to Arian, has written that between Sandro- cotus to Dianisaum 153 generations and 6042 years passed. From this data, we get the average of 39.5 years per king. From this we can cal- culate 5451 years for 138 generations. So Krishna must have been around 5771 B.C.

3. Pliny gives 154 generations and 6451 years between Bacchus and Alexander. This Bacchus may be the famous Bakasura who was killed by Bhimasena. This period comes to about 6771 years B.C.

Thus Mahabharat period ranges from 5000 B.C. to 6000 B.C.

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Shrimad bhagwat

a) Bhagwat gives 28 Kaurava kings from Parikshit to Kshemaka. “From Kshemaka, the Pandava Dynasty will end in Kaliyug, and Magadha Dynasty will start.” [Bhagwad 9-22-45]. This implies that the Pandava kings ruled before the advent of Kaliyug, i.e., before 3101 B.C and Magadha dynasty will not super-impose the Pandava Dynasty.

b) Further it is stated in Bhagwat that after 28 Kaurava kings, Magadha Dynasty would rule and 22 Magadha kings would govern for 1000 years. Here it is given a average of 1000 years for 22 kings. It can be found that the 28 Kaurava kings would have ruled for 1273 years and then Magadha Dynasty started with King Sahadeva, whose son was Somapi. On the other hand, Maghasandhi was the son of Sahadeva and the grand- son of Jarasandha [Ashwamedh-82]. many scholars have neglected this fact and have assumed that this Sahadeva fought in the Mahabharat War and was the son of Jarasandha.

c) Ripunjaya is the last king in the list of 22 Magadhas. But Bhagwat 12.1.2-4 mentions that Puranjaya will be the last king who will be killed by his minister Shunak. It is to be noted that there is no men- tion of the kings between Ripunjaya and Puranjaya. People have wrongly taken the two names as that of one and the same person, without any evidence.

d) Bhagwat 12.1.2-4 state that Shunak would coronate his son Pradyota as the King and later five Kings would rule for 138 years. After this Pradotya Dynasty, Shishunga Kings, 10 in number, would rule for 360 years. Thereafter 9 Nandas would rule for 100 years. Nanda would be destroyed by a Brahmin and Chandragupta would be enthroned. We know that Chandragupta Maurya ascended the throne in 324 B.C. So we can thus calculate backwards:

9  Nandas 100 years
10 Shishungas  360 years
5  Pradotyas 138 years
22 Magadhas 1000 years
28 Kauravas 1273 years
74 Kings  2871 years

We find here only 74 kings, but Megasthenes tells us about 138 kings. So 138-74=64 kings are missing. These may be from the period between Ripunjaya and Puranjaya. Thus calculating from the data of 74 kings who ruled for 2871 years, we get a period of 2496 years for 64 kings. Adding the two we get 5367 years for 138 kings. This is preceding Chandragupta’s time, who came to throne in 324 B.C. Hence, 324+5367 = 5691 B.C. is the approximate date of Parikshit.

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Yudhishtira Era and Kaliyug

Scholars accept the date of the Mahabharat War to be 3100 B.C. which also happens to the initiation of the Yudhisthira Era. But this Era, is mentioned nowhere in the Mahabharat text itself! At the time of Aswamedha of Yudhisthira, Vyas has given descriptions in minute detail like collection of “Sruva”, formation of wells and lakes, but never has written even a word about, such an important event, as the begin- ning of the Yudhisthira Era.

Mahabharat also never mentions anything about the beginning of the Kaliyug, even at the time of Krishna’s death. Mahabharat Adiparva 2.13 states that the War took place in the interphase (“Antare”) of the Dwapaar and Kali Eras. Thus it makes it clear that the evening of the Dwapaar has not yet ended and the Kaliyug had not started when the War took place.

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Saptarishis

Bhagwat states at 12.2.27-32 that Saptarishis stay 100 years in one Nakshatra. At the time of King Parikshit, the Saptarishis were in Magha. When they proceeded to Purvashadha, Kali would start. There are 11 Nakshatras from Magha to Purvashadha. Hence it is seen that Shukacharya tells Parikshit that after 1100 years Kaliyug will start. Kaliyug started at 3101 B.C. Hence 3101 + 1100 = 4201 B.C. is the date of Parikshit.

Other references from Shrimad Bhagwat points quite closely to the same year as above.

But who is this Parikshit ? Is he the son of Abhimanyu ? No. A minute observation of this reveals that the above is not Abhimanyu’s son because Bhagwat is told to this Parikshit. On the other hand, Mahabharat is told to Janamejaya. In the Mahabharat, Parikshit’s death has been recorded. Hence it is evident that Mahabharat was written and published after the death of Parikshit, the son of Abhimanyu. Bhagwat is written after Mahabharat according to the Bhagawat itself. This Bhagwat is told to some Parikshit. How can this Parikshit be the son of Abhimanyu who died before the Mahabharat writing ? So this Parikshit appears to be somebody else than Abhimanyu’s son.

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Equinox

Mahabharat mentions the ancient tradition as ‘Shravanadini Nakshatrani’,i.e., Shravan Nakshatra was given the first place in the Nakshatra- cycle (Adi-71/34 and Ashvamedh 44/2) Vishwamitra started counting the Nakshatras from Shravan when.he created ‘Prati Srushti’. He was angry with the old customs. So he started some new customs. Before Vishvamitra’s time Nakshatras were counted from the one which was occupied by the sun on the Vernal Equinox. Vishvamitra changed this fashion and used diagonally opposite point i.e. Autumnal Equinox to list the Nakshtras. He gave first place to Shravan which was at the Autumnal Equinox then. The period of Shravan Nakshatra on autumnal equinox is from 6920 to 7880 years B.C. This was Vishvamitra’s period at the end of Treta yuga. Mahabharat War took place at the end of Dwapar yuga. Subtracting the span of Dwapar Yuga of 2400 years we get 7880 – 2400 = 5480 B.C. as the date of Mahabharat War.

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Astrology

Some scholars rely on the horoscope of Lord Krishna to calculate his birth-date so as to establish the period of Mahabharat. But they do not realise that the horoscope is a forged one, prepared many thousand years after Krishna’s death. Mahabharat Bhagvat and Vishnu purana have not given the planet positions at the time of Krishna’s birth. It is well-known and is recorded in many scriptures that Krishna was born in a jail, then who could have casted his horoscope? Moreover Krishna was not a prince so nobody would have casted his horoscope. Hence it is not wise to rely on the horoscope. It is prepared recently by consid- ering the charateristics of Krishna and so is useless to fix the birth-date.

Mr. G.S. Sampath Iyengar and Mr. G.S. Sheshagiri have fixed the birth-date of Krishna as 27th July 3112 BC. ‘The horoscope shows Lagna and Moon 52 deg. 15′ Rohini, Jupiter 91 deg. 16′ Punarvasu, Sun 148 deg. 15′ Uttara Phalguni, Mercury 172 deg. 35′ Hasta, Venus 180 deg. 15′ Chitra, Saturn 209 deg. .57′ Vishakha, Mars 270 deg. 1′ Uttara Ashadha Rahu, 160 deg. 1′.

At present on 27th July 1979 the Sun was at 99 deg. 57′, while at Krishna’s birth, according to their opinion, the sun was at 148 deg. 15′. The difference is 48 deg. 18’. This shows that the Sun has receded back by 48 deg. 18′ due to the precession at the rate of 72 years per degree. multiplying 48 deg. 18′ by 72 we get 3456 years. This shows that Krishna was born 3456 years ago or substracting 1979 from it we can say that Krishna was born during 1477 BC. Thus 3112 BC is found to be wrong. We cannot accept such a wrong date derived from a manipulated borscope. (This horoscope is printed in “The Age of Bharat War” on page 241-Publisher, Motilal Banarasidas 1979).

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Archeaology

In 1971, when I hinted at the date of Mahabharat war as 5500 years BC, Archeaologists frowned at me saying it as impossible because no cul- ture was found in India dating so much back. But now evidences are pouring in Archeaology itself showing cultures in India upto 30000 to 40000 years BC. Padmashri Late Mr. V.S. Wakankar has dated the paint- ings in the caves of Bhimbetaka of Madhya Pradesh to about 40000 BC.

Recently Dr. S.B. Rao, Emeritus Scientist of the National Institute of Oceanography, Dona Paula, Goa, 403004, has discovered under the sea, Dwaraka and dated it as between 5000 to 6000 BC. This news has been published by all the leading newspapers on 22th October 1988.

Motilal Banarasidas News Letter October 1988 gives a news on page 6 under the heading “50,000 year old Relics” as follows:

Spectacular culture and physical relics dating back to 50,000 years BC have been excavated from the Central Narmada Valley in Madhya Pradesh. A team of Anthropological survey of India recently con- ducted the excavation. It explored sites in two districts Sebore and Hoshangabad.

In my book “Vastava Ramayan” I have shown the presence of culture in India as far back as 72000 years B.C. This recent news points to that ancient period. I am sure after some time Arecheaology may get evi- dence to show the presence of culture in India 72000 BC.

In Vastava Ramayan I have shown that Bali, the demon king went to south America during 17000 BC when the vernal equinox was at Moola Nakshatra. MLBD News letter Oct. 1988 gives a news thus :-“Dravidians in America” – According to a press report the Brazillian nuclear phy- sicist and researcher Arysio Nunes dos santos holds that the Dravi- dians of South India reached America much before Christopher Columbus.

Mr. Nunes dos Santos, of the’ Federal University of Minas Gerais maintains that the Dravidians colonised a vast South American region 11000 years before the Europians reached the new world. Vestiges of the Dravidian presence in America, he says, include the strange phonetics of Gourani, Paraguay’s national language. Moreover Bananas, Pine Apple, Cocunut and Cotton, all grown in India could have been taken to America by those navigators.

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The exact date of Mahabharat War

16th october 5561 year B.C.

Harivansh (Vishnu Purana A. 5) states that when Nanda carried Krishna to Gokul on Shravan Vadya Navami day, there was dry cow-dung spread all over the ground and trees were cut down. The presence of Dry Cowdung all over in Gokul indicates the presence of Summer in the month of Shravan. Trees are usually cut down in Summer to be used as fuel in the rainy season. The seasons move one month backwards in two thousand years. Today the rainy season starts in Jeshtha but two thousand years ago, at the time of KaIidas, rainy season used to start in Ashadha. At the time of Krishna’s birth the Summer was in the month of Shravan while today it is in Vaishakha. Thus the summer is shifted by four months, hence Krishna’s period comes to 4×2000 = 8000 years ago approximately. This means about 6000 years B.C., the same period we have seen above.

At the time of Mahabharat, the Vernal Equinox was at Punarvasu. Next to Punarvasu is Pushya Nakshtra. Vyas used “Pushyadi Ganana” for his Sayan method, and called Nirayan Pushya as Sayan Ashvini. He shifted the names of further Sayan Nakshtras accordingly. At that time Winter Solstice was on Revati, so Vyas gave the next Nakshatra Ashvini the first palee in the Nirayan list of Nakshatras. Thus he used Ashvinyadi Ganana for the Nirayan method. Using at times Sayan names and at times Nirayan names of the Nakshatras, Vyas prepared the riddles. By the clue that Nirayan Pushya means Sayan Ashvini, it is seen that Nirayan names of Nakshatras are eight Nakshatras ahead of the Sayan names Thus the Saturn in Nirayan Purva, and Sayan Rohini, Jupiter was in Nirayan Shravan, and Sayan Swati (near Vishakha), while the Mars was in Nirayan Anuradha, and Sayan Magha, Rahu was between Chitra and Swati, by Sayan way means it was in Nirayana. Uttara Ashadha (8 Nakshtras ahead). From these positions of the major planets we can calculated the exact date. My procedure is as follows:

I found out that on 5th May 1950, the Saturn was in Purva Phalguni. From 1950 I deducted 29.45 years to get the year 1920 when the Saturn was again in Purva. In this way I prepared a vertical column of the years when the Saturn was in Purva. Similarly, I prepared vertical columns of the years when the Jupiter was in Shravan and Rahu in Uttara Ashadha. Then I searched in horizontally to find out the year common in all the three columns. It was 5561-62 B.C. when all the three great planets were at the required places. Then I proceded for the detailed calculations.

Bhisma expired at the onset of Uttarayan i.e. on 22nd December. This is a fixed point according to the modern Scientific Calendar. He was on the arrow-bed for 58 nights and he had fought for ten days. Hence 68 days earlier than 22nd December the War had started. This shows that the War started on 16th October. We have to calculate the plane- tary positions of 16th October 5561 B.C.

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Saturn

Encyclopedia of Astronomy by Larousse states that one rotation of Saturn takes 26 years and 166 days. One year means 365.25 days. So the Saturn’s round takes 29.4544832 years.

5th May 1950, Saturn conjugated with Purva. We have to see its posi- tion in 5561 years B.C. 5561+1950 = 7511 years. 7511 divided by 29.4544832 gives 255.00362 rounds. This means that Saturn completed 255 rounds and has gone ahead by 0.00362 or 1.3 degrees. Hence Saturn was in conjugation with Purva on 5th May 5561 B.C. On 16th October’ 5562nd B.C. i.e. 164 days later it must have travelled (0.0334597 degrees (daily pace) multiplied by 164 days =) 5.487 degrees. So Saturn was at 141 degrees or in Purva Nakshatra.

In October 1962, Saturn was at 281 dgrs. 1962 + 5561 = 7523 years. 7523 devided by 29.4544832 gives 255.41103 turns. After completing 255 full turns, Saturn has gone back by 0.411003 turn i.e. 148 dgrs. 281-148= 133 degrs. This was the position of Saturn in Purva.

Calculating from 1931 or 1989 also Saturn appears at 141 dgrs. in Purva. Thus on 16th of October 5562nd B.C. Saturn was in Purva as told by Vyas in Mahabharat.

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Rahu

Rahu takes 18.5992 years per rotation. It was at 132 dgrs. on 16th Oct. 1979. 1979 + 5561 = 7540, divided by 18.5992 gives 405.39378 turns. 0.39378 turns means 141.7 dgrs. Rahu always goes in reverse direction. We have to go in the past, so adding 141.7 to orginal 132 we get 273 dgrs. This is Uttarashadha where Rahu was situated (by Nirayan method).

Calculations from 1989, 1962 and 1893 confirm Rahu in Uttara Ashadha.

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Jupiter

Jupiter takes 11.863013 years per rotation. On 16th October 1979, it was at 129 dgrs. 1979+5561 = 7540. 7540 divided by 1.863013 gives 635.58892 turns. 0.58892 turn means 212 dgrs. So Jupiter was 212 dgrs behind the orginal position. 129 – 212 = -83. -83 means 360 – 83 = 277 degree 277 dgrs is the position of the star of Shravan. So Jupiter was in conjugation with Shravan. The span of Shravan is 280 deg. to 293 deg.

Calculations from 1989, 1932 and 1977 show Jupiter in 285 and 281 degrees or in the zone of Shravan. This confirms the position told by Vyas.

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Mars

Mars takes 1.88089 years per rotation. On 16th October 1979, Mars was at 108 dgrs. 1979 + 5561 = 7540 yrs. 7540 divided by 1.88089 gives 4008.7405 turns. 0.7405 turns means 266 dgrs., Mars was 266 dgrs behind the original position of 108 deg. 108 – 266 = 158. 360 – 158 = 202 deg. This is just beyond the star of Vishakha which is at 200 dgrs. Though in Vishakha-zone Mars has crossed the Star of Vishakha and intends to go in Anuradha, so the description of Vyas as “Anurad- ham Prarthayate” that it requests or appeals Anuradha, appears to be correct.

Calculations from 1962 and 1900 show Mars at 206 and’ 208 dgrs and therefore though in Vishakha, it can be called as appealing Anuradha “Anuradham Prarthayate”. Thus it is seen that Vyas has used tricky but correct terms. He has not written any false statement because he was the Truth-abiding Sage.

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Heliocentric and geocentric

Here an expert may raise a question whether I have used Heliocentric method or Geocentric method. I make it clear here that I have used the Heliocentric method that means I have considered the rotations of planets around the Sun. But after fixing the position of the planet around the Sun I have also seen where that planet will be seen from the earth.

I would like the scholars to consider one more point here. When I say that an insect is sitting near one o’ clock position on your watch or clock, one may think that the insect is between 12 and 1 while other may think that it is between 1 and 2. So the span to find that insect is from 12 to 2. Similarly Vyas has mentioned the Nakshatra in the vicinity of the planet and therefore we have a scope of one Nakshatra on either side to find out the planet. Thus if our answer is between +13 deg. and -13 deg. from the given position we are successful. In my calculations I have achieved the perfect positions, but by chance, somebody gets a different position he is requested to consider a span of -,+ 13 degrees. The positions given by other scholars are far away than the positions recorded by Vyas, so they are not acceptable.

I request the scholars, to be careful while doing calculations not to take a retrograde position of the present planet, because that may give a false position. Please note that all the planets become retro- grade only apparently when our earth is approaching them. We need not consider their retrograde motion each year because their rotational periods around the Sun are fixed and in that they are seen retrograde from the earth apparently. We have to see if the last position of the planet is retrograde. This can be done easily by considering the position of the Sun and planet. Any external planet becomes retrograde when it is in the house from 5th to 9th from the Sun.

Leap year

Please note that i have taken 365.25 days for a solar year. It covers the general leap years, but it does not take into account the leap years abandoned at centuries. At the interval of 400 years leap years are taken according to the modern scientific calendar. If these cen- tury years are considered, there may be an error of 50 days in 7500 years duration. As for dates these 50 days are automatically accounted for because we have taken the winter solstice as fixed on 22nd December, and it is referred by Vyas, while describing Bhishma’s death. As far as the planets like Saturn, Rahu and Jupiter are con- cerned 50 days are immaterial because in 50 days the Saturn will move only 1.6 deg. while Jupiter 4.1 deg. as an average. Hence their error is negligible.

Now, we have seen that all the four important planets satisfy their positions as told by Vyas on 16th October 5562nd B.C. Hence we have no other way but to accept this date as the exact date of Mahabharat War.

Please note that, so far, not a single Scholar has shown a date with the planetary positions satisfying the description by Vyas in Mahabharat. Late Mr. C. V. Vaidya and Prof. Apte show 3102 B.C., but their Mars is in Ashadha, Jupiter is in Revati, Saturn in Shatataraka and Rahu in Jeshtha. Prof. K. Shrinivasraghavan, Mr. Sam- pat Ayangar and Sheshagiri show 3067 B.C. but they put Jupiter and Saturn in Rohini and Sun, Rahu, Mars in Jeshtha. Garga, Varahmihir and Tarangini show 2526 Before Shaka i.e. 2449 B.C. But their Mars comes in Dhanishtha, Jupiter and Saturn in Bharani and Rahu in Hasta. P.C. Sengupta gives 2448 with Saturn 356 deg., Jupiter 8 deg., Mars 157 deg., Venus 200 deg., Sun 200 deg., (Ancient Indian chronology” Calcutta University). The Western scholars as well as Romeshchandra Datta and S. B. Roy show 1424 B.C. but their Saturn is in Shata- taraka, Jupiter in Chitra, Rahu in Purva and Sun in Anuradha with no eclipse. Billandi Ayer shows 1193 years B.C. but his Mars comes in Mula, Jupiter in Purva Bhadrapada, Saturn in Purva Ashadha and Rahu in Punarvasu. At 900 B.C. as is proposed by many other scholars, Jupiter comes in Mula, Rahu in Vishakha and Saturn in Jeshtha. Thus not a single scholar could coroborate his date with the facts written by Vyas.Hence, their dates have to be dismissed. (C. V. Vaidya’s Upasamhar page 94.” Age of Mahabharat War”).

I have shown all the planetary positions correct to the description of Mahabharat. In addition I have shown that the seasons tally with my date, and the seasons never tally with other dates. I have solved all the planetary riddles from Mahabharat which nobody could dare. So 16th October 5562nd BC. is the exact date of the first day of the Mahabharat War. At the beginning of the War, Vyas promised Dhrutarashtra that he will write history of the Kauravas; so most probably Vyas must have written the Astronomical data immediately.

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Uranus (known to Vyas in 5561 B.C)

All the planets, viz., Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn and Rahu show correct positions mentioned in the Mahabharat on 16th December 5561 B.C. This must be the exact date of the Mahabharat War. After pin-pointing the exact date, it struck to me that the three additional planets mentioned with positions by Vyas, may be Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. Vyas has named them as Shveta, Shyama and Teevra. Let us see if the conjecture is correct. We have to prove this with the help of Mathematics, because we have to go scientifically.

Vishesheena hi Vaarshneya Chitraam Pidayate Grahah….[10-Udyog.143]
Shevtograhastatha Chitraam Samitikryamya Tishthati….[12-Bheeshma.3]

In these two stanzas, Vyas states that some greenish white (Shveta) planet has crossed Chitra. This means that the planet was in Swati (or Vishakha, because Chitra and Swati are close together). This is the Sayan position hence Nirayan position is eight Nakshatras ahead in Shravan (or Dhanishtha). Neelakantha calls this “Mahapata” which means having greater orbit. Greater orbit indicates a planet beyond Saturn. Hence I assumed Shveta to be Uranus. Let us calculate and see if this true.

In October 1979, Uranus was at 206 degrees. Uranus takes 84.01 years per rotation. 1979 + 5561 = 7540. 7540/84.01 = 89.75122 turns. 0.75122 rotation means 270.4392 degrees. 206-270 = -64 = 296 degrees. This comes in the zone of Dhanishtha, but the star of Dhanishtha is at 297 degrees, so the position given by Vyas is confirmed. Hence Shveta must be Uranus.

In October 1883, Uranus was at 151 degrees. 1883 + 5561 = 7444 years. 7444/84.01 = 86.608498 rotations. 0.608498 turn means 219 degrees. 151-219 = 292 degrees. This is Shravan Nakshatra. So Uranus was in Shravan during Mahabharat War as stated by Vyas under the name of “Shveta”.

1930 calculations show Uranus to be at 292.54 degrees or Shravan. Thus our mathematics proves that Vyas has given correct position of Uranus under the name of Shveta. This proves that Vyas had the knowledge of Uranus under the name of Shveta, supposed to have recently discovered by Herschel in 1781. Shveta means greenish white. Uranus is actually greenish white in colour. So Vyas must have seen Uranus with this own eyes. Uranus is of 6th magnitude and is visible to the naked eye according to the modern science.

Neelakantha of 17th century also had the knowledge of Uranus or Shveta. He writes in his commentary on Mahabharat (Udyog 143) that Shveta, or Mahapata was a famous planet in the Astronomical science of India. Neelakantha was about 100 years before Herschel, who sup- posedly discovered Uranus. So we can conclude that one hundred before Herschel, Uranus was known to the Indian Astronomers and Vyas had discovered it at or before 5561 year B.C.

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Neptune (was known to Vyas in 5561 B.C.)

In 1781 A.D., Herschel discovered Uranus; but its calculated positions never corroborated with the actual positions. So the experts thought of another planet beyond Uranus. They fixed its position by mathemat- ics, and at that site, it was discovered by German Astronomers in 1846 A.D. I have found that Neptune is also mentioned by Vyas in Mahabharat, under the name of “Shyama”.

Shukrahah Prosthapade Poorve Samaruhya Virochate Uttare tu Parikramya Sahitah Samudikshyate….[15-Bheeshma.3] Shyamograhah Prajwalitah Sadhooma iva Pavakah Aaindram Tejaswi Naksha- tram Jyesthaam Aakramya Tishthati…[16-Bheeshma.3]

Here Vyas says that there was some luminary with Venus in Poorva Bha- drapada. He adds further that a bluish white (Shyama) planet was in Jyeshtha and it was smoky (Sadhoom). Saayan Jyeshta means Nirayan Poorva Bhadrapada, so this is the description of one and the same planet named by Vyas as Shyama. Neelkantha calls it “Parigha” in his commentary on Mahabharat. Parigha means circumference, so this planet may be at the circumference of our solar system.; and so may be Nep- tune. Let us see by Mathematics is this statement is true. We will determine the position of Neptune on 16th December 5561 B.C.

Neptune takes 164.78 years per rotation. It was at 234 degrees in 1979. 1979 + 5561 = 7540 years. 7540 divided by 164.78 gives 45.75798 rotations. 0.75798 turn means 272.87 degrees. 234 – 272.87 = -38.87 = 321.13 degrees. This is the site of Poorva Bhadrapada. So Neptune was in Poorva-Bhadrapada during 5561 B.C.

In 1948, Neptune was at 172 degres. 1948 + 5561 = 7509. 7509/164.78 gives 45.56985 turns. 0.56985 turn means 205 degrees. 172-205 = -33 =360-33 = 327 deg. This is the zone of Poorva Bhadrapada.

In 1879, Neptune was at 20 degrees. 1879 + 5561 = 7440 years. 7440 divided by 164.78 gives 45.15111 turns. 0.15111 turn means 54.39 deg. 20 – 54.39 = -34.39 = 360 – 34.39 = 325.61 degrees. This is Poorva- Bhadrapada.

Thus the position of Shyama or Parigha is factually proved in the case of Neptune. Thus, we conclude that Vyas did know Neptune too. Vyas might have got his knowledge by Yogic Power or by Mathematics or by using telescopic lenses. Mathematics was far advanced then, that is why ancient Indian sages fixed the rate of precession of Equinoxes accurately. Even the world famous scientist Gamov praised the sages for their remarkable work in Mathematics. So could have mathematically calculated the position of Shyama or Neptune.

Mirrors are mentioned in the Mahabharat. So lenses too might have been present at that time. They had Microscopic Vision (Shanti A. 15,308). As microscopic vision was present, there might be telescopes too. Planets can be seen with mirrors as well as lenses. Vyas must have “seen” Neptune; its proof lies in the fact that he says that it is bluish white (Shyama). Neptune is, in fact, bluish white in colour. Hence we conclude that Neptune was known to Vyas in 5561 B.C.

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Pluto (was also known to Vyas in 5561 B.C)

Krittikaam Peedayan Teekshnaihi Nakshatram……[30-Bheeshma.3]

Vyas states that there was one Nakshatra, i.e, some immobile liminary troubling Krittika (Pleides) with its sharp rays. This “star” in Krit- tika must have been some “planet”. It must have been stationary for many years, that is why Vyas called it Nakshatra which means a thing that does not move according to Mahabharat itself [Na Ksharati Iti Makshatram].

Hence the Nakshatra was a planet moving very slowly like pluto which takes nine years to cross one Nakshatra of 13 degrees. My assumption that this Nakshatra was Pluto gets confirmed by B.O.R.I (Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute?) Edition which states thus :

Krittikasu Grahasteevro Nakshatre Prathame Jvalan…… [26- Bhishma.3]

Some editions mention ‘Grahasteekshnah’. Thus Teevra, Teekshana and Nakshatra are the names of one and the same planet (graha) which was in Krittlka in 5561 B.C. Let us see if Vyas has given these names to Pluto and if Pluto was in Krittika. It is stated that Krittika was troubled with sharp rays by that planet – this indicates that it was Nirayan Krittika.

Pluto was at 175 degrees in 1979. It takes 248 years per rotation. 1979+5561=7540 years. 7540 divided by 248 gives 30.403223 turns. 0.403223 turn means 145 degrees. 175 – 145 = 30 degrees. This is the site of Krittika. Thus it is proved beyond doubt that Vyas bas men- tioned the position of Pluto, which was discovered to the modern world in 1930. Vyas could have used his Yogic Vision or mathematical brain or a lens or some other device to discover Teevra, Teekshna’ or Nakshatra or Pluto.

Thus all the three so-called ‘New’ planets are discovered from Mahabharat. It is usually held that before the discovery of Herschel in 1781 AD, only five planets were known to the world. This belief is wrong because Vyas has mentioned ‘seven Great planets’, three times in Mahabharat.

Deepyamanascha Sampetuhu Divi Sapta Mahagrahah….[2-Bhishma.17]

This stanza states that the seven great planets were brilliant and shining; so Rahu and Ketu are out of question. Rahu and Ketu are described as Graha’ 23 meaning Nodal points. (Parus means a node). Evidently Rahu and Ketu are not included in these seven great planets. The Moon also is not included, because it was not visible on that day of Amavasya with Solar Eclipse. From the positions discovered by me and given by Vyas it is seen that Mars, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Uranus, Venus and Neptune were the seven great planets accumulated in a small field extending from Anuradha to Purva Bhadrapada. So they appeared to Ved-Vyas as colliding with each other, during total solar eclipse.

Nissaranto Vyadrushanta Suryaat Sapta Mahagrahah….[4-Karna 37].

This stanza clearly states that these seven great planets were ‘seen’ moving away from the Sun. As these are ‘seen’, Rahu and Ketu are out of question. This is the statement of sixteenth day of the War, naturally the Moon has moved away from the Sun. Hence, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Uranus, Venus and Neptune are the seven great planets mentioned by Vyas.

Praja Samharane Rajan Somam Sapta grahah Iva……[22-Drona 37].

Here again seven planets are mentioned, excluding the Moon.

Even if we do not consider the planetary positions, from the above three stanzas, it is clear that seven planets are mentioned which do not include the Sun, Moon, Rahu and Ketu. Naturally the conclusion is inevitable that Vyas did know Uranus (Shveta) and Neptune (Shyama) as planets.

If they were known from 5561 years B.C. then why they got forgotten ? The answer is simple, that these two planets, Uranus and Neptune were not useful in predicting the future of a person. So they lost impor- tance and in the course of time they were totally forgotten. But, in any case, Neelakantha from 17th century knew these two planets very weIl. Neelakantha is about a hundered years ancient than Her- schel, and he writes that Mahapata (Uranus) is a famous planet in the Astronomical science of India. He also mentions the planet ‘Parigha’ i.e. Neptune. 22 So both were known in India, at least one Hundered years before Herschel. Vyas is 7343 years ancient than Herschel, but still he knew all the three planets Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.

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Additional evidence

Kshaya or Vishvaghasra Paksha

A fortnight of only thirteen days is told by Vyasa which occured just before the great War. Such a fortnight comes at the interval of 22 years. Calculations show that at 5562nd B.C. Kshaya Paksha did occur. It had occured 1962 and 1940. 1962+5562 = 7524 is completely divisi- ble by 22.

Amavasya confirmed

Krishna and Karna fixed the day of War on Amavasya (Udyog 142). Vyas also indicates in Bhishma 2 & 3 that the War started on the day second Amayasya, because two successive Amavasyas appeared then. Bhishma died on the day after 67 (58+9) nights from the onset of the War, on the occasion Uttarayan i.e. 22nd December. So the War must have commenced on 16th October. Let us see if Amavasya comes on this day.

In 1979, Amavasya was on 21st of October. Amavasyas repeat after the intervals of 29.53058 days. The Lunar year is of 354.367 days while the Solar year is 365.25 days. 1979+5561 = 7540 multiplied by 365.25 and divided by 354.367 gives 7771.5616 Lunar years. 0.5616 Lunar year means 199.0125 days. 199.0125 divided by 29.53058 gives 6.7392005. This indicates that 6 Amavasyas are completed and 0.7392005 lunar month or 22 days are left. These 22 days are left for 21st October and we have to go behind upto 16th October. So adding these 6 days to 22 we get 28 days. After 28 days Amavasya can occur. After 29 days it always occurs. Thus on 15th and 16th October 5562nd year B.C, there were two successive amavasyas as mentioned by Vyas.

Another method gives the same conclusion. At the interval of 19 years the Amavasya falls on the same date. 19×365.25 divided by 29.53058 gives 235.00215. So in 19 years 235 Amavasya are completed. I found that on 17th October 1963, there was an Amavasya. 1963+5561 = 7524 divided by 19 gives 396. This division is complete, so there was an Amavasya. Thus it is established that Vyas has reported Amavasya correctly.

Eclipses

Vyas has mentioned that there was Solar as well as Lunar eclipses in one month at the time of Mahabharat War. Calculations confirm that in October 5561 year B.C, both the Solar and Lunar eclipses did occur. Rahu and Ketu were in Uttara Ashadha at 273 deg. & 279 deg. so total eclipse of the Sun took place on the Margashirsha Amavasya day Only 13 days earlier, according to Vyasa, there was Pournirma with lunar eclipse, causing pallor of the Moon. Thirteen days earlier the sun would have been 13 deg. behind at (279 – 13 =) 266 in Purva Ashadha. It was Pournima so the Moon was diagonally opposite at (266-180=) 86 deg. in Punarvasu, just beyond Mruga, so it was Margashirsha Pournima though it is wrongly or enigmatically told to be Kartika Pournima. Rahu was at 273 deg., so Ketu was diagonally opposite in Punarvasu, so the ellipse of the moon was possible which was not total.

A Big comet

Vyas has mentioned that at the time of Mahabharat War a big comet was seen just beyond Pushya Nakshtra. There are many comets. Indian Astro- nomical works refer to more than 500 comets, but big comets are very few. Haley’s comet is one of the big comets which comes at the regu- lar intervals of 77 years. It was seen in 1910 and 1987. If we add 1910+5561 = 7271. 7271 is divisible completely by 77. Evidently it seems that it was Haley’s comet was seen at the Mahabharat War.

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Conclusion

All the twelve planets confirm their said positions on 16th October 5561 years B.C. along with two Amavasyas, two eclipses, Kshaya Paksha and a Comet. Thus, in all 18 mathematical positions fix the same date. Therefore, we have to accept this date of the Mahabharat War, if we want to be scientific. Please note that all the twelve planets will come in the same positions again only after 2229 crores of years. That means it will never happen again in the life of our earth, because life of the earth is only 400 crores of years. So the date of the Mahabharat War is pin-pointed as 16th October 5561 B.C.

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Appendix

Hereunder is provided a short table dates of important Mahabharat events in years. (Dates and Tithis in years in Rama Samvat assuming Shri Rama Samvat 1st January. 1 equivalent to 1st Jan 7323 B.C. Rama’s birth date has been conclusively proved to be 4th Dec. 7323 B.C.( “Vastav Ramayan“).

Event Date      
Going to forest 4th Sept. 5574 BC
Kitmeet Killed 7th Sept. 5574 BC 
Going underground 19th May 5562  BC 
Keechak killed 1st April 5561 BC 
Anukeechak-Massacre 2nd April 5561 BC 
End of secret life 9th April 5561 BC 
Cows stolen 15th April 5561 BC 
Arjuna exposed 16th April 5561 BC 
All pandavas exposed 19th April 5561 BC 
Marriage of Uttara & Abhimanyu 4th May.
Krishna set out for a treaty 27th Sept.
Stay at Upaplavya 27th Sept.
Stay at Vrukshthala 28th Sept.
Dinner to Brahmins 29th Sept.
Entry into Hastinapur 30th Sept.
Krishna meets Kunti etc. 1st Oct.
Invited for meeting 2nd Oct.
First meeting 3rd Oct.
Second meeting and an attempt to arrest Krishna. 4th Oct.  
Third meeting Vishvaroopa 7th Oct.
Stay at Kunti 8th Oct.
Krishna meets Karna. War fixed 9th Oct.
Krishna returns 9th Oct.
Pandavas preparation Balaram’s visit 11th Oct. 
Mahabharat war started 16th Oct.
Abhimanyu killed 28th Oct. 5561 BC.
End of War 2nd November 5561 B.C.
Yudhishthira crowned 16th Nov. 5551 BC.
Bhishma expired 22nd Dec. 5561 BC
Pandava campaign for wealth 15th Jan. 5560 BC 
Parikshita born 28th Jan. 5560 BC
Pandavas return 25th Feb. 5560 BC
Ashvamedh Deeksha 1st March 5560 BC
Return of Arjuna Horse 15th Jan. 5560 BC
Ashvamedh yajna 22nd Feb. 5559 BC
Dhrutarashtra went to fores 18th Aug. 5545 BC
Pandavas visited Kunti. Vidura expired 18th Aug. 5543 BC
Death of Kunti, Dhrutarashtra and Gandhari Sept./Oct. 5541 BC
Yadava Massacre 5525 B.C.
Parikshit Dead 5499 B.C.

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References

P.V.Vartak, Swayambhu (in Marathi), Ved Vidnyana Mandal, Pune

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Brahmins and Gotra


SOME TIMES BY ; SANTOSH  BHATT

  In general, Gotra denotes any person who traces descent in an unbroken male line from a common male ancestor.

Panini defines Gotra for grammatical purposes as ” apatyam pautraprabhrti gotram” (IV. 1. 162),

Which means ‘the word Gotra comes as progeny (of a sage) beginning with the son’s son. When a person says ‘ I am Kashypasa-gotra, ‘ he means that he traces his descendt from the ancient sage Kashyapa.
By unbroken male descent. According to the Baudhâyanas’rauta-sûtra Viśvāmitra, Jamadagni, Bharadvâja, Gautama, Atri, Vasishtha, Kashyapa and Agastya are 8 sages;

the progeny of these eight sages is declared to be gotras. This enumeration of eight primary gotras seems to have been known to Pānini. These gotras are not directly connected to Prajapathy or latter brama.

The offspring (apatya) of these eight are gotras and others than these are called ‘ Gotrâvayava ‘.[24]

The Gotras are arranged in groups, e. g. there are according to the Âsvalâyana-srautasûtra four subdivisions of the Vasishtha gana, viz. Upamanyu, Parāshara, Kundina and Vasishtha (other than the first three).

Each of these four again has numerous sub-sections, each being called gotra. So the arrangement is first into Ganas, then into Pakshas, then into Individual gotras.

The first has survived in the Bhrigu and Āngirasa gana. According to Baudh., the principal eight gotras were divided into pakshas. The pravara of Upamanyu is Vasishtha, Bharadvasu, Indrapramada;

The pravara of the Parâshara gotra is Vasishtha, Shâktya, Pârâsharya; the pravara of the Kundina gotra is Vasishtha, Maitrâvaruna, Kaundinya and the pravara of Vasishthas other than these three is simply Vasishtha. It is therefore that some define pravara as the group of sages that distinguishes the founder (lit. the starter) of one gotra from another.

There are two kinds of pravaras, 1) sishya-prasishya-rishi-parampara, and 2) putrparampara. Gotrapravaras can be ekarsheya, dwarsheya, triarsheya, pancharsheya, saptarsheya, and up to 19 rishis. Kashyapasa gotra has at least two distinct pravaras in Andhra Pradesh: one with three sages (triarsheya pravara) and the other with seven sages (saptarsheya pravara).

This pravara may be either sishya-prasishya-rishi-parampara or putraparampara. When it is sishya-prasishya-rishi-parampara marriage is not acceptable if half or more than half of the rishis are same in both bride and bridegroom gotras. If it is putraparampara, marriage is totally unacceptable even if one rishi matches.[25] sandilya gotra one a gotra of brahmins.about a month ago · 

 Now on Modern day thinking if I add my 2 cents worth of opinion on subject is If we take 1 and divide in to Half i.e 1/ .5 what we get after ten generation is negligible portion.

Let me describe it in detail. One man and One woman. who tie holy matrimony and start Family, They have Kids either Baby Boy or Baby Girl who marries now let us go back to original man who mixed his blood or lineage with Woman, In modern time X and Y and new generation is born.

Now if you divide like that what is significance of Gotra after 10 generation ? is a Million Dollar question to be asked.

Any one wants to throw light on subject and enlighten me. I shall really appreciate it..

We Brahmins are Educated clan and have always been smart in our out of Box thinking and approach.

Isn’t it time to have modern aproch so our society can benefit and we can progress.

Please read my article on VARNA VYAVASTHA / CAST ARRANGEMENTS. written in webdunia.com which is English translation of original Hindi article on subject.

“” ब्राह्मण वंसावली का पूरा विस्तार “” 


भविष्य पुराण से मिलता है।जिसमे ब्राह्मण उत्पत्ति से सभी नियम क्रम दर्शाये गए है।


1) गोत्र: गोत्र का अर्थ है, की वह कौन से ऋषिकुल में से उतर कर आया है। या उसका जन्म किस ऋषिकुल से संबन्धित है। किसी व्यक्ति की वंश परंपरा जहां से प्रारम्भ होती है, उस वंश का गोत्र भी वहीं से प्रचलित होता गया है। हम सभी जानते हें की हम किसी न किसी ब्राह्मण ऋषि की ही संतान हें, इस प्रकार से जो जिस ऋषि से प्रारम्भ हुआ वह उस ऋषि का वंशज कहा गया। गोत्रों की उत्पत्ति सर्व प्रथम ब्राह्मणो मे ही हुई थी क्योकि यह वर्ग ही ज्ञान से इसे स्मरण रखने में समर्थ था। धीरे धीरे जब ब्राह्मण वर्ग का विस्तार हुआ तब अपनी पहिचान बनाने के लिए अपने आदि पुरुषों के नाम पर गोत्र का विस्तार हुआ।


इन गोत्रों के मूल ऋषि – अंगिरा, भृगु, अत्रि, कश्यप, वशिष्ठ, अगस्त्य, तथा कुशिक थे, ओर इनके वंश अंगिरस, भार्गव,आत्रेय, काश्यप, वशिष्ठ अगस्त्य, तथा कौशिक हुए। [ इन गोत्रों के अनुसार इकाई को “गण” नाम दिया गया, यह माना गया की एक गण का व्यक्ति अपने गण में विवाह न कर अन्य गण में करेगा। इस प्रकार कालांतर में ब्राह्मणो की संख्या बढ़ते जाने पर पक्ष ओर शाखाये बनाई गई। इस तरह इन सप्त ऋषियों पश्चात उनकी संतानों के विद्वान ऋषियों के नामो से अन्य गोत्रों का नामकरण हुआ। 


वेदों का अध्ययन करने पर जिन सात ऋषियों या ऋषि कुल के नामों का पता चलता है।जो ब्राह्मण के वंसज हुए और उन्हें के गोत्र से ब्राह्मणों का विकास हुआ। वे नाम क्रमश: इस प्रकार है:- 1.वशिष्ठ, 2.विश्वामित्र, 3.कण्व, 4.भारद्वाज, 5.अत्रि, 6.वामदेव और 7.शौनक।


गोत्र शब्द का एक अर्थ गो जो प्रथ्वी का पर्याय भी हे ओर ‘त्र’ का अर्थ रक्षा करने वाला भी हे। यहाँ गोत्र का अर्थ प्रथ्वी की रक्षा करें वाले ऋषि से ही है। भगवान् ने भी ब्राह्मणों को सभी से श्रेष्ठ इसलिए कहा क्योंकि ब्राह्मण शाश्त्र के साथ शश्त्र भी उठा कर पृथ्वी की रक्षा कर सकते है।इसलिए ब्राह्मण सदैव पूजनीय रहा है।गो शब्द इंद्रियों का वाचक भी हे, ऋषि मुनी अपनी इंद्रियों को वश में कर अन्य प्रजा जानो का मार्ग दर्शन करते थे, इसलिए वे गोत्र कारक कहलाए। ऋषियों के गुरुकुल में जो शिष्य शिक्षा प्राप्त कर जहा कहीं भी जाते थे वे अपने गुरु या आश्रम प्रमुख ऋषि का नाम बतलाते थे, जो बाद में उनके वंशधरो में स्वयं को उनके वही गोत्र कहने की परंपरा पड़ गई। 


 गोत्रों का महत्व :- जाति की तरह गोत्रों का भी अपना महत्‍व है ।

1. गोत्रों से व्‍यक्ति और वंश की पहचान होती है ।

2. गोत्रों से व्‍यक्ति के रिश्‍तों की पहचान होती है ।

3. रिश्‍ता तय करते समय गोत्रों को टालने में सुविधा रहती है ।

4. गोत्रों से निकटता स्‍थापित होती है और भाईचारा बढ़ता है ।

5. गोत्रों के इतिहास से व्‍यक्ति गौरवान्वित महसूस करता है और प्रेरणा लेता है ।


भविष्य पुराण में ब्राम्हण के गोत्रों का उल्लेख मिलता है जो कि निम्नलिखित हैं।प्राचीन काल में महर्षि कश्यप के पुत्र कण्वकी आर्यावनी नाम की देवकन्या पत्नी हुई। इन्द्रकी आज्ञासे दोनों कुरुक्षेत्रवासिनी सरस्वती नदी के तट पर गये और कण्व चतुर्वेदमय सूक्तों में सरस्वती देवी की स्तुति करने लगे। एक वर्ष बीत जाने पर वह देवी प्रसन्न हो वहां आयीं और आर्यों की समृद्धि के लिये उन्हे वरदान दिया। वर के प्रभाव से कण्व के आर्य बुद्धिवाले दस पुत्र हुए -जिनके नाम उपाध्याय, दीक्षित, पाठक, शुक्ला, मिश्रा, अग्निहोत्री, द्विवेदी, त्रिवेदी, पाण्डेय और चतुर्वेदी है। इन लोगो का जैसा नाम था वैसा ही गुण भी था। इन लोगो ने नतमस्तक हो सरस्वती देवी को प्रसन्न किया। बारह वर्ष की अवस्था वाले उन लोगो को भक्तवत्सला शारदादेवी ने अपनी कन्याए प्रदान की। वे क्रमशः उपाध्यायी, दीक्षिता, पाठकी, शुक्लिका, मिश्राणी, अग्निहोत्रिधी, द्विवेदिनी, त्रिवेदिनी पाण्ड्यायनी और चतुर्वेदिनी कहलायीं। फिर उन कन्याओ के भी अपने-अपने पति से सोलह-सोलह पुत्र हुए हैं वे सब गोत्रकार हुए जिनका नाम है- कष्यप, भरद्वाज, विश्वामित्र, गौतम, जमदग्रि वसिष्ठ, वत्स, गौतम, पराशर, गर्ग, अत्रि, भृगडत्र अंगिरा, श्रृंगी, कात्यायन और याज्ञवल्क्य। इन नामो से सोलह-सोलह पुत्र जाने जाते हैं। मुख्य 10 प्रकार ब्राम्हणों के ये भी हैं-

(1) तैलंगा (2) महार्राष्ट्रा (3) गुर्जर, (4) द्रविड (5) कर्णटिका यह पांच द्रविण कहे जाते हैं।ये विन्ध्यांचल के दक्षिण में पाये जाते हैं तथा विंध्यांचल के उत्तर में पाये जाने वाले या वास करने वाले ब्राम्हण 

(1) सारस्वत (2) कान्यकुब्ज (3) गौड़ (4) मैथिल (5) उत्कलये उत्तर के पंच गौड़ कहे जाते हैं। 


वैसे ब्राम्हण अनेक हैं।जिनका वर्णन आगे लिखा है। ऐसी संख्या मुख्य 115 की है। शाखा भेद अनेक हैं । इनके अलावा संकर जाति ब्राम्हण अनेक है । यहां मिली जुली उत्तर व दक्षिण के ब्राम्हणों की नामावली 115 की दे रहा हूं। जो एक से दो और 2 से 5 और 5 से 10 और 10 से 84 भेद हुए हैं, फिर उत्तर व दक्षिण के ब्राम्हण की संख्या शाखा भेद से 230 के लगभग हैं तथा और भी शाखा भेद हुए हैं, जो लगभग 300 के करीब ब्राम्हण भेदों की संख्या का लेखा पाया गया है।

उत्तर व दक्षिणी ब्राम्हणो के भेद इस प्रकार है-

81 ब्राम्हाणो की 31 शाखा कुल 115 ब्राम्हण संख्या (1) गौड़ ब्राम्हण (2)मालवी गौड़ ब्राम्हण (3) श्री गौड़ ब्राम्हण (4) गंगापुत्र गौडत्र ब्राम्हण (5) हरियाणा गौड़ ब्राम्हण (6) वशिष्ठ गौड़ ब्राम्हण (7) शोरथ गौड ब्राम्हण (8) दालभ्य गौड़ ब्राम्हण (9) सुखसेन गौड़ ब्राम्हण (10) भटनागर गौड़ ब्राम्हण (11) सूरजध्वज गौड ब्राम्हण (षोभर) (12) मथुरा के चौबे ब्राम्हण (13) वाल्मीकि ब्राम्हण (14) रायकवाल ब्राम्हण (15) गोमित्र ब्राम्हण (16) दायमा ब्राम्हण (17) सारस्वत ब्राम्हण (18) मैथल ब्राम्हण (19) कान्यकुब्ज ब्राम्हण (20) उत्कल ब्राम्हण (21) सरवरिया ब्राम्हण (22) पराशर ब्राम्हण (23) सनोडिया या सनाड्य (24)मित्र गौड़ ब्राम्हण (25) कपिल ब्राम्हण (26) तलाजिये ब्राम्हण (27) खेटुुवे ब्राम्हण (28) नारदी ब्राम्हण (29) चन्द्रसर ब्राम्हण (30)वलादरे ब्राम्हण (31) गयावाल ब्राम्हण (32) ओडये ब्राम्हण (33) आभीर ब्राम्हण (34) पल्लीवास ब्राम्हण (35) लेटवास ब्राम्हण (36) सोमपुरा ब्राम्हण (37) काबोद सिद्धि ब्राम्हण (38) नदोर्या ब्राम्हण (39) भारती ब्राम्हण (40) पुश्करर्णी ब्राम्हण (41) गरुड़ गलिया ब्राम्हण (42) भार्गव ब्राम्हण (43) नार्मदीय ब्राम्हण (44) नन्दवाण ब्राम्हण (45) मैत्रयणी ब्राम्हण (46) अभिल्ल ब्राम्हण (47) मध्यान्दिनीय ब्राम्हण (48) टोलक ब्राम्हण (49) श्रीमाली ब्राम्हण (50) पोरवाल बनिये ब्राम्हण (51) श्रीमाली वैष्य ब्राम्हण (52) तांगड़ ब्राम्हण (53) सिंध ब्राम्हण (54) त्रिवेदी म्होड ब्राम्हण (55) इग्यर्शण ब्राम्हण (56) धनोजा म्होड ब्राम्हण (57) गौभुज ब्राम्हण (58) अट्टालजर ब्राम्हण (59) मधुकर ब्राम्हण (60) मंडलपुरवासी ब्राम्हण (61) खड़ायते ब्राम्हण (62) बाजरखेड़ा वाल ब्राम्हण (63) भीतरखेड़ा वाल ब्राम्हण (64) लाढवनिये ब्राम्हण (65) झारोला ब्राम्हण (66) अंतरदेवी ब्राम्हण (67) गालव ब्राम्हण (68) गिरनारे ब्राम्हण (69) गुग्गुले ब्राम्हण (70) मेरठवाल ब्राम्हण (71) जाम्बु ब्राम्हण (72) वाइड़ा ब्राम्हण (73) कड़ोल ब्राम्हण (74) ओदुवे या दुवे (75) वटमूल ब्राम्हण (76) श्रृंगालभाट ब्राम्हण (77) गौतम ब्राम्हण (78) पाल ब्राम्हण (79) सोताले ब्राम्हण (80) सिरापतन मोताल ब्राम्हण (81) महाराणा ब्राम्हण (82) चितपाक ब्राम्हण (83) कराश्ट ब्राम्हण (84) त्रिहोत्री या अग्निहोत्री ब्राम्हण (85) दशगोत्री ब्राम्हण (86) द्वात्रिदश ब्राम्हण (87) पन्तिय ग्राम ब्राम्हण (88) मिथिनहार ब्राम्हण (89) सौराष्ट्र।

ऐसे ब्राह्मण के अनेको प्रकार बताये गए है लेकिन मुख्य ब्राह्मण कुल इन्ही सप्तऋषिओ से ही बना है।


विष्णु पुराण के अनुसार ब्राह्मण की उत्पत्ति इस श्लोक से होती है।


श्लोक- वशिष्ठकाश्यपो यात्रिर्जमदग्निस्सगौत। विश्वामित्रभारद्वजौ सप्त सप्तर्षयोभवन्।। 

अर्थात् सातवें मन्वन्तर में सप्तऋषि इस प्रकार हैं:- वशिष्ठ, कश्यप, अत्रि, जमदग्नि, गौतम, विश्वामित्र और भारद्वाज।

इस तरह से ब्राह्मणों के वंस का वर्णन मिलता है।


ये जानकारी अपने अपने बच्चों को जरूर बताये।आज की भावी पीढ़ी को सच्चे ब्राह्मण का अर्थ पता नहीं है इसलिए वो अपने धर्म मार्ग दे भटक गया है।

            “” जय परशुराम “”

VARNA VYAVASTHA / CAST ARRANGEMENTS. written in webdunia.com


This is A English translation of Original post of VARNA VYAVASTHA written in webdunia.comhttp://hindi.webdunia.com/religion/sanatandharma/article/1006/14/1100614081_1.htmabove post.

Uproar over racist stands have been used in India . Especially under the guise of so-called ancient Hindu caste system to be a vicious cycle has gone bad . Domestic and foreign people about the evil fat – fat book has been written , but they know that every religion and nation is found in such evils .

Have they read social science ? Principle they know the origin of species ? Pages in people of all religion – but religion is vile sentiments have nothing to do with it .

SHRUTI i i.e demigod in Vedic times and RAKSHASHA were two types of society . Dev Rksha be called demigod and demon. That tune and began to be called demons . Later, they came to be called the Aryans and Anary . As far as questions of race were so distinct that nations do with Sanatan Dharma – was not about . Species used to be Dravid, Mongol , doubt , Hun , Kushan etc.

Aryan race was not but a group of people who moved from Kabialai decent culture to be included in each sector and which were retained only on the Vedas .

Later, get to see it called in India the Brahmin’s and Srman विचारधाराएँ lasted two types . Brahman is the only one who believed that God called Brahman . Brahman is formless . Brahmin ideology holds that salvation is received only by the will of God . This world is God’s will Adhin . Srman person’s life that requires labor . From labor and labor power and convenience is achieved only salvation can be found .

Journey of colors through action on today’s so-called race came completely came to be distorted . Now its meaning is sin . Aryan race did not name anyone . Aryan race did not name any . Aryan period the white color is a recognition that the Brahmin’s, Kshatriyas , which he red , black is the color of the compound , which was unmarked and it was considered merchant .

This division of people based on identity and psychology were made . On this basis four directions of Kailash different people – different groups had spread .

Aryan person was black and white color too. The difference between white and black is just abroad but in India, the country ‘s four types of characters ( color) was considered . In a group of white bread and white people was the daughter belongs .

First color, nose – Nekksha and language would have taken over the accuracy . A clan , community or other language a person gets married to another woman ‘s clan was then that her clan, community or language group of people excluded were used .

In the same way that a white person of color was black girl gets married so that the said group of people would have excluded him . Different groups of people also thought to be subsequently excluded . But such discrimination can not be concerned with religion at all . Are part of the social assumptions .

Later action began to change character ie color means . During memory tasks based on people Brahmin, Kshatriya , Vaishya or came to be called trivial . Knowledge to obtain knowledge of the Brahmin , the Kshatriya sector management and protecting the state ‘s economy and to steer business to the skilled person in the merchant and the state’s other activities came to be called trivial , ie server . Anyone could be anything as your ability .

Merit thus gradually become the same group of workers and the same group was later to protect their interests in society has changed . The said society on the basis of his work began to be called . Such as the tailors who stitch clothes , laundry to the laundry, a barber cutting hair , etc. Shastri the reader .

There are many societies who are made to distinguish themselves from other societies have created and look for new traditions . Like all his – to separate their totems . Their – their customs – customs began to redefine , which are the most get to see the impact of local culture . Sanatan Dharma tradition and trust above all to do with .

Rig Veda , Ramayana and Gita Srimdhagwat upper and lower caste based on birth classification , the concept of untouchables and Dalits have been barred . Based on birth of Rigveda opposing caste men – Ssukh (X.90.12), And Srimd Bhagwat Geeta Shloka (IV.13), (XVIII.41) Get into .

Approximately 414 names of saints of Rigveda ऋचाओं See name of which about 30 are female saints . One also has not used the word next to the name Zatisuacka as happens in the present – Chaturvedi , Singh , Gupta , Agrawal , Yadav , Sun , Thakur , Dhnagr , Sharma , Iyengar , Srivastava , Goswami , Bhatt , butt , Sangte etc. All the above from the value of current caste system sage – sage can be of any race or society .

ऋचाओं of the Rig Veda and Gita shlokas to be read carefully , it is clear that the birth -based caste system reflected have no basis . Man is one. Hindu caste system which follows the action is against the Vedas . Religion is an insult . Sanatan Hindu religion among humans do not accept any type of distinction . Surname , clan , caste etc. The tradition of all is the result of several thousand years .

Staff : Janmen Zayte trivia : Dvij Uchyte Sanskarad . – Manusmṛti
Meaning : Maharishi Manu Maharaj statement that is generated as a petty man , and culture itself is made Dvij .
Interpretation : Man is small at birth that is unmarked but his values , ie only the second birth Dvij holds . Second birth means the Vaishya , Kshatriya or Brahman is made or even superior to them is the sage .
Verses : “Brahma Dhaary Kshatran Dhaary Bisan Dharay ‘ ( Yrjuved 38-14 )
Meaning : For our interest Brahmin , Kshatriya and Aeishyoan holding up.
Interpretation : Ie humans for their own interests Brahmin, Kshatriya or Vaishya is holding the election .
Staff : Men existence ( God ) is the home of the Brahmin , Kshatriya arms , the Vaishya and Shudra Uru legs . Ie step salutation to the ultimate paragraph Shudra was considered the father of God which we do Vandana . ( Yrjuved 31-11 )
Staff : Chatuharverny Ssristaan गुणकर्मविभागशः Mayo .
Meaning : I attribute , to distinguish the four characters created karma . Characters in the Mahabharata period – the system is defined according to the properties and actions . Duties of the four characters are Bhlahc several locations . All his characters – look at his deeds Warahnanusar lived and thus no loss of religion had to practice .- Fiesta 64/8/24-34 Mahabharata etc. )

Manusmṛti is the word – ‘ Avipranan ज्ञानतो Teeshtam Kshatriyanan वीर्यतः ye . ” Namely Brahmin and Kshatriya of the force ‘s reputation has knowledge of semen . Jabali unknown character despite being the son of Jaoali Satyakam due Satyakata divine – was considered official lore .

So caste – system narrowness of release. Properties , actions and decision of character happens to be in accordance with nature , assumes that race . Character means community or nation means no character and color of nature is considered .

To divide the work of memory during character system was arranged . Working with what we know , he do the same , as is his nature to be treated then in the said letter . Today the caste system or social order is understood .

Some individual merit or Shuddhacharan without being high or high caste and clean themselves are beginning to accept and some have begun to understand their vile and impure . Later this figure , respectively boost Mughal period , British period and after independence of India in a period of Indian politics has evolved into the now vast . In mythology does not attempt to know what is written there and chants and describes sources is arbitrary .

We उपजातियाँ many beings , many by now has become . Two thousand internal differences within the so-called Brahmin society are considered . Only Saraswat Brahmins only around 469 branches. If the 990 and the Kshatriyas Kshaudraoan Aeishyoan and is even more उपजातियाँ . Their – their marriages are within the scope are compressed . Result that broke the cultural unity of India . When someone breaks the unity efforts are only adding to her .

Please read my article on Brahmins and Gotra on the subject.

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