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Ram Setu. A truth


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SOME TIMES BY ; SANTOSH BHATT

Rama's Bridge. A subset of Landsat 5 TM true c...

Rama’s Bridge. A subset of Landsat 5 TM true color composite of Rama’s bridge or Ram Setu (referred by British cartographers as Adam’s Bridge). Path 142 Row 54; Bands 742 (RGB); Resolution 30 meter. Original image acquired on 6 February, 1988 at 4:42:00 GMT. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

 

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Ram Setu Bandh ( Bridge ) and Lord Rama took birth at the end of Trta Yuga and Begining of Dwapar Yuga some 8,64000 Plus Krishna era or Kaliyuga i.e 7571 years ( 5561 BC +2010 AC = 7571 ) Ago Hinduism: Age of the earth according to Vedic chronology and Dating of Maha Bharat and Krishna.

The Scientific Dating of the Mahabharat War 4th Dec. 7571

These are satelite Images of Ram Setu Bandh taken by NASA and ISRO http://www.google.com/images?q=ramsetu&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSNB_enUS357US357&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=yXuHTJGhBMPwngf1kuHwCw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCUQsAQwAA&biw=999&bih=411

The bridge was first mentioned in the ancient Sanskrit epic Ramayana of Valmiki[Ramayana]. The western world first encounters it in “historical works in the 9th century” by Ibn Khordadbeh in his Book of Roads and Kingdoms (ca. 850 CE), referring to it is Set Bandhai or “Bridge of the Sea”.

[7] Later, Alberuni described it.

The name Rama’s Bridge or Rama Setu (Sanskrit; setu: bridge) was given to this bridge of shoals in Rameshwaram, as Hindu legend identifies it with the bridge built by the Vanara (monkey-men) army of Rama , which he used to reach Lanka and rescue his wife Sita from the Rakshasa king, Ravana, as stated in the Sanskrit epic Ramayana.

[8] The sea separating India and Sri Lanka is called Sethusamudram “Sea of the Bridge”. Maps prepared by a Dutch cartographer in 1747, available at the Tanjore Saraswathi Mahal Library show this area as Ramancoil, a colloquial form of the Tamil Raman Kovil (Rama’s Temple)

[9] Another map of Mogul India prepared by J. Rennel in 1788 retrieved from the same library called this area the area of the Rama Temple

[10] Many other maps in Schwartzberg’s historical atlas[11][12] and other sources call this area with various names like Koti, Sethubandha and Sethubandha Rameswaram along with others.

[13][14][15][16] Valmiki’s Ramayana attributes the building of the bridge to Lord Rama in verse 2-22-76.[17]

The earliest map that calls this area Adam’s bridge was prepared by a British cartographer in 1804, probably referring to an Islamic legend, Islamic apeasing was conspiracy of British and Moslims to steal any thing and every thing good of others and Renamed with fake stories.

According to which Adam used the bridge to reach Adam’s Peak in Sri Lanka, where he stood repentant on one foot for 1,000 years, leaving a large hollow mark resembling a footprint. Both the peak and the bridge are named after this legend.[2][8][18]

Indian Historians: Notorious or Ignorant

More than a hundred years ago, when History of India was written under British influence, there was no room for Ramayan and Mahabharat as historical events. They were epics and of no importance for students. It is surprising that India is one country whose history has been written by its enemies and the whole nation yet follows it.

No doubt the history was a strategic attack on Indian civilization and culture that paved way for western culture into the nation. With time, truth is evolving back. Science of India that was denied is now accepted through western influence.

The myths are suddenly appearing to be history. And one such history is Ram Sethu. Since, it is a history of Hindus, politics and literates are not ready to accept it as truth.

If they are so intelligent, let them go through this article. I challenge them through few questions mentioned in bold in this article.

Let us have a background of what politicians and historians (British written history literates) say about Ram Sethu.

Historian B.D. Chattopadhyay of Jawaharlal Nehru University says the archaeological record says nothing of the sort.

There is no evidence of a human presence in the subcontinent, he says, before roughly 250,000 to 300,000 years ago. It is generally believed man’s hominid ancestors did not leave their African home until about two million years ago.

Very important point here is that Mr. Chattopadhyay has forgot to note that what is said of hominid ancestors is also a belief – a belief generated by Western people and followed by Mr. Chattopadhyay – not Truth, not Science.

Surely Ramayan, if a belief is a belief of eastern people – Indian People. Mr. Chattopadhyay is trying to introduce a belief clash.

Why Mr. Chattopadhyay wants to defy a true instance with a false belief? Does Mr. Chattopadhyay want to say that Lord Rama is deep in the heart of billions of Indians to this date without any truth? Can false beliefs find so deep root in society and for so long time?

I read a similar comment from N Ramanujam. Head, Post Graduate Department of Geology and Research Centre, V.O. Chidambaram College, Tuticorin.

He said that Adam’s Bridge is only a chain of shoals between the Palk Strait and the Gulf of Mannar, created by sedimentation owing to long shore currents.

Explaining the bridge’s geological history, he said both the Palk Strait and the GoM were once part of the Cauvery basin, which was formed during the separation of India and Antarctica about 70 million years ago during the `Gondwana period.’

They were combined till a ridge was formed in the region owing to thinning of earth’s crust. The development of this ridge augmented the coral growth in the region.

“The coral cover acted as a `sand trapper’ leading to the formation of Rameswaram Island,” Dr. Ramanujam said.

The long shore currents on the southern side of island created a discontinuous shoreline eastward from Dhanuskodi to Talaimannar, which’s the Adam’s Bridge.

Let us see what Mr. Ramanujam has said:

How many such Chain of Shoals bridging two nations is known to Dr. Ramanujam? Is there any other Geographical construct anywhere in the world – deposits of shoals along the coast doesn’t say that it bridges two land pieces?

Again Mr. Ramanujam is taking support of another belief to beat the truth. He is talking of Gondwana theory, a theory that has no concrete proof – an imaginary thesis with some scientific logic behind it. Hundreds of such theory can be generated based on Geographical principles, but that do not defy a concrete reason of existence.

Why did Gondwana theory leave a trace of only One Bridge on the Globe?

Very important – Ramanujam is unable to change the names of two places as Dhanuskodi and Talaimannar which are not English names as they already exist, and hence successfully accepts a controversial English name of Adam’s Bridge instead of Ram Setu. Mr. Ramanujam could very easily put his theory with the name of the Bridge still as Ram Setu. But he ends up in saying that is Adam’s Bridge – WHY?

Why did Mr. Ramanujam accept Adam’s theory to be correct? Does Mr. Ramanujam want to support that Adam and Eve existed and Lord Rama didn’t exist?

If yes, then Adam and Eve existed in India alone as the bridge is in India – Again controversy – as Manu Shatrupa would be more known names in this region and analogy to Adam and Eve. Moreover, acceptance of Adam’s Bridge is acceptance that it was build by Adam. Actually, the logic fits opposite to them – how can the first man on earth build a bridge of that volume? He would be immature at first place, he is alone at second place and why will he ever endeavor to bridge the sea?

Though the only evidence is with India, no logic fits to the name as ‘Adam’s Bridge’. This clearly reflects the Christian mentality trying to impose and kill Hindu greatness. And poor Historians of India, brought up in the education system of English, unable to break the boundary of false arrogance of being high literary, seems to be helplessly saying that Ram Setu Bandh is not historical.

They cannot even hold a petty vision that humans have build wall of length of Great wall of China that is visible from even Satellite; what would stop humans to build Ram Setu Bandh and what is surprising or opposing to the fact that it was built as a part of Ramayan as a history.

Does Mr. Ramanujam want to say that if Adam built it, it is history, but if Lord Rama built it it is a Myth and a natural construct?

Professor Dupey says that as per Archeological survey, remains from Ayodhya controversial site has found temple remains whose age do not go beyond 600 B.C.

Mr. Dubey: Do you want to say that if I build a temple today, you will conclude that Lord Rama existed since today and not before?

Temples are build and rebuild and their age can only say about the age of the temple and the age of the personality whose worship is done in the temple.

We need to understand certain points here, modern Archeology and Science is far different than what used to exist in ancient India. For instance, old temples of India, yet existing, were built on a different technology than what we find in modern civil engineering.

This doesn’t mean that ancient archeology was not having mathematics maturity – in fact, if we look at Temples of India, Jagannath Puri temple for instance, we do not find any iron or pillars used to build the temple – yet it stands from hundreds of years to a height of around 200 ft.

Assume that Puri temple would have been razed some 10000 years ago, what technology or archaeological proofs would be derived to conclude that the temple was 200 ft high?

Similarly, the Ram Setu bandh has seen ages, and that too not on land, but in sea – a turbulent sea. The major of the mass is already washed off – a question to be pondered is that what remains is just a trace of the actual bridge – not the whole bridge as it was.

Ramayan mentions that the bridge was built over the sea water, with support of Sea – this implies that there was no supporting archeology involved in constructing the bridge – this is easily supported by the failure of Archeology ground to trace such constructs under ground. Yet the presence of shoals below the bridge and their type indicate that they cannot be found in sea in the manner it exists at Ram Sethu.

Now, Mr. Dubey accepts that the age of Shoals found at Ram Sethu goes around 1 million years. He misguides people, as he is a literate of History written by British, that Ramayan was first written around 10000 years ago and not 1 million years ago. Mr. Dubey, here is a simple calculation for you to further investigate:

The age of the bridge as per scientific dating comes to around 1 million years. As per Hindu scriptures, Ramayan took place in ‘Treta Yug’.

Calculating by Hindu scriptures (Treta Yug with a tenure of 12,96,000 years,

 Dwapar Yug with a tenure of 8, 64,000 years,

Kali Yug has just seen 12,013 years): 

We know that Treta Yug was before Dwapar Yug.

So, one thing is quite evident. The Bridge was constructed at least 8,64,000 years ago, i.e., 0.86 million years ago, which is pretty close to 1 million years.

Treta Yuga itself is 1.3 million years of age.

How is that scientific age of the shoals and the Hindu calendar age of Lord Rama matches exactly? Will Mr. Dubey and other historians dare to come out of the falsehood of our enemy teachings and try to explore some mathematics of Hindus before they say make such stupid comparison of scientific ages?

2. Analysis of Valmiki Ramayan over RAM SETHU

Now, let us go into the Valmiki Ramayan and dig out more history out of it. Let us be sure that if we want to dig history, we have to touch Valmiki Ramayan alone and not any other Ramayan, because all other Ramayan are written with purpose of promoting Ramayan and recording the event.

Here are certain points from Valmiki Ramayan to be considered:

1. There is no other book than Ramayan that has put into scriptures describing such geographical constructs.

2. Ramayan says that it was build under the supervision of an Architect Nala – son of the greatest Architect of all times ‘Vishwakarma’ (Note: ‘Vishwakarma’ is a designation given to the greatest archeologist and builder of the era in ancient Hindu society, a similar practice as we have in modern world of ‘Nobel Prize’). Thus, the book makes sure that such a bridge can be constructed by only architect of highest skill.

Why do the politicians mislead the nation by saying that Lord Rama was a Superman who build the bridge, when Ramayan clearly says that it is not Lord Rama but the Architect Nala and Neela who build the bridge?

3. The bridge was (Ramayan mentions the bridge constructed in 5 days: 14 + 20 + 21 + 22 + 23 = 100 yojans) 100 Yojans long and 10 Yojans wide. Data to be considered here:

4. The data starts from 14 yojans as first day, which is less than other day’s data, confirming a logic that first day as a beginning had taken time to gear up all Vanars. Second day it took momentum and rest of the days the distance of the bridge constructed is found to be nearly same. A logical conclusion of this sort is made only when the event have occurred in reality.

Why did Valmiki thrust his imagination to get the bridge completed only in 5 days? He could have well increased the number of days to help people of today understand it more logically. Or he could have even reduced the number of days to highlight the power of Lord Rama.

5. The data that more than a crore (10 million) Vanaras were involved in building it, seems to be logical to fit to support the volume of the bridge constructed. Now, the count may not be exact, but surely Valmiki wants to say that there was a huge task force working for the bridge.

Valmiki could have easily shown Lord Rama winning the battle with few hundred Vanars as his soldiers – why 10 million?

6. The width vs. length ratio also looks scientific and supportive to help carry such a huge mass across the bridge. The bridge is wide enough so as to withstand the weight of crores of Vanaras and allow passage to all of them.

7. The bridge is said to be built in 5 days, giving an idea that bridge had to be built in a very short period of time, failing which the Opponent King Ravana would have come to know about it and would have attacked never allowing the bridge to be constructed. Thus, the period fits the war logic.

8. The bridge is said to be constructed by around a crore Vanaras, the count fits the possibility of getting the bridge constructed in such a small time – a huge task force doing it. Though, the methodology of construction is not elaborated and shortened by mentioning that various ‘Yantras’ or Machinery were used to build the bridge, but it gives an indication that machinery were applied to do the task. It should be a subject to study about our past. Valmiki Ramayan: Yuddha Kanda, 22.60:

‘Hastimatran Mahakayah Pashananshch Mahabalah

Parvatanshch Samutpatya Yantraiyah Parivahanti Cha’

What was the need to mention that certain Machineries were used for constructing the bridge? How did an ancient man imagine of machineries?

9. Very interestingly, Rama is not said to have built the bridge and the point clarifies that building it was the skill of an architect – Nala and not Rama or Hanuman, the hero of the book. Had Ramayan been a fantasy of Maharishi Valmiki, he would easily fantasized and written something like Rama built a bridge of Arrows as Rama was the hero in fantasy. But it is not so, making one think that it is not fantasy writing.

Why didn’t he tell the world that it was Lord Rama who builds it and give the credit to someone else of this great happening? After all, Lord Rama was the hero of his imagination.

10. Ramayan also depicts the materials used in making the bridge clarifying that it was a possibility, but not under imagination of human capacity under technology support of today.

11. Seeing the time constraint, it looks logical to have Vanars who are brisk in their movement collecting materials and fitting it in place as directed.

12. The places mentioned in Ramayan exactly matches to the current location of the bridge, thus confirming that the book is not a story.

13. The length of the bridge matches to what is mentioned in Ramayan.

So, looking at Ramayan alone one can conclude that the Bridge is not a natural construct. Having proven on the point of Bridge alone that Ramayan is not a book of myth, but a book of History, it straight away brings the truth that Maharishi Valmiki was the first Historian known to man kind

3. Current Findings on RAM SETHU and their analysis

However, we need to further analyze current findings as well.

The first thing to consider is that under the current scientific evaluation, the bridge is proved to have a chain of shoals is 30 to 35 km long in Palk Street, and its unique curvature confirms that it is man made, and is not a Geographical Construct at all.
Archeological findings have proven that first signs of human inhabitants in Sri Lanka date back to primitive age of about 1,750,000 years of the same era as Ramayan (‘Treta Yug’, which lies exactly mid way to above number).
Sri Lankan Government has done Archeological Survey and found some very interesting data:
A mountain covered completely with herbal plants of same type that is found in Himalayas. There is no other mountain in whole Sri Lanka of that kind.

This stands as an evidence that the mountain was brought by Lord Hanuman to Sri Lanka – How was this done is subject to study? To my knowledge, Sri Yantra of Hindu myth (or may be similar constructs) is actually a anti-gravitation theory which was know to our Rishis in those days and these things were possible only by such means. Someday,

science will surely understand this.
Ashok Vatika is traced with complete Greenery and while soil. With a gap of hardly 10-20 meters, soil suddenly turns to be black and burnt and it stretches to miles. This highly unnatural and it stands to prove that Lord Hanuman had burnt Lanka.
There are many other proofs that have come up, but I consider these two points as strong as the Bridge itself.

Can our Historians consult the British again and create more theory around these evidences, so that they can be included in History books against Ramayan?

From Ayodhya to Sri Lanka, most of the places still hold the names as it was around a million years ago. Even the devastating Muslim invasion could not eliminate the names. Ayodhya, Chitrakut, Panchvati, Rameswaram, Lanka – all the names are as mentioned in the book. Rameswaram is the place where Lord Rama worshipped Lord Shiva and established the idol ‘Shiv Lingam’, exist to date as a place of worship.

Ramayan talks about Mahendragiri Mountain as the highest point and best point to watch across the sea. Geographically, it is proven that Mahendragiri is the highest mountain in that area and gives a visibility of around 60 km range.
Why don’t these politicians and historians say how are these mentioned in Ramayan? Did these places pre-existed and Valmiki traveled a lot to create this story? Or these places were named after people read Valmiki Ramayan?

The more logical answer is, these places pre-existed and the event took place which Valimiki wrote as poetic history.

Another important fictitious topic of Ramayan is ‘Pushpak Viman’ – a vehicle that could take aerial route to travel. No doubt the Pusphak Viman no more exists, but it cannot be fantasy as we have similar air planes telling about it. What challenges the concept of Viman is the understanding that technology has developed in current era and people were devoid of such high-tech products in ancient India. But then Ramayan gives a background of Pushpak Viman in terms of how it was acquired, thereby making one think that it was not a mere fantasy. It should not be expected from the book Ramayan to describe the details of Pushpak Viman creation. The question that should be asked is where the actual scientific data of Hindu researches about building the Pushpak Viman got lost – and true history of India and world will evolve.
Do our Historians want to say that if Pushpak Viman existed then Valmiki would have mentioned how it was built? How many history book of today contains the scientific methodology of building machinery – why don’t our historians first do this?

What seems to be mythical to the Historians and Science is the concept of Monkey building the Bridge. But they forget to expand the vision on this, purely because of their biased attitude to defeating Hindu faith. We all know now that there are many species that do not exist now and the largest known to human is Dinosaur. Why can’t different specie exist around 1 million years ago with the capacity of human intelligence and monkey like physical structure – something that was called as Vanars in those days? Science do not forget to mention that man evolved out of monkeys – but defeats Hindus to consider that Vanars were the in between form of the evolution the evidence present in those days. But no view would consider this, simply because then the religion of peace would win then. Yet, there is no doubt that evolution theory is again a controversial theory existing and taught to people, without any scientific evidence around it.
No historian can deny the fact that there is a coincidence and only one coincidence between a reality and its occurrence in a book called Ramayan. Instead, of now having set a direction to find out how such thing took place, these catholic followers are simply applying all forces and theories to falsify a fact.
Science is now saying that the age of earth is around 4 billion years – can science produce a history of 4 billion years with concrete proof – no one asks this question and believes science. No one knows how many generation of humanity evolved and got destroyed since the earth was formed. No one knows when the earth was exactly formed. Actual fictions and stories lie on this side as well – but our dear Historians do not have the courage to flatter about it.

I do not understand, if such an amazing construct is not within the reach of modern science, why can’t this bridge be put as one of the Wonders? Why can’t it be listed under World Heritages (yet maintain it as Hindu sacred place)? Instead, the anti-Hindu moves are motivating Congress to destroy the bridge.

If the destruction of a 500 year old Babri Masjid is not tolerable and it created havoc in the world, why is million year old constructs not protected? Thousands of Hindu temples have been destroyed and are being destroyed to date in Kashmir, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, and so many other countries. Neither media nor politics talks about it. Why shouldn’t Hindus stand now to protect Ram Sethu, which is a direct proof of One million year old history of India?

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Indonesia A Lost Hindu Empire.


Genealogy of the kings of Majapahit, Indonesia

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This is awesome article about Indonesia a Lost Hindu Empire written by Shreyas Limaye and sheds light on History of Country and its civilization and root Vedanta Philosophy. I urge all the Indonesian people to do some research on their family roots and come back to religion of their ancestor and throw cult of terror from their Mother land and join the Humanity.

Sam Hindu

Lost Hindu Empires of Indonesia ;

By Shreyas Limaye , PhD

One of the common misconceptions about Hinduism is that it is an India-specific religion. Indeed it is true that Hinduism and the Vedanta philosophy originated in India and even today a vast majority of the followers of the religion are Indians; emigration and migration in the last couple of centuries and the universal appeal of Vedanta have made people recognize the fact that it is a global religion with a worldwide following.
 
Even historically, Hinduism was never an India-specific religion. Ancient Hindu idols have been discovered in places as far as central Asia. However, for a variety of reasons, Hinduism got erased from most of the places which lay to the west of India.
 
But in Indonesia, where Hinduism flourished in style and in substance, it continues to maintain its presence even today – reminding us of its past glory and global appeal.

How Hinduism was introduced in Indonesia:

Records of foreign trade with Indonesia exist from the early AD centuries. Consequently, it was earlier thought that Hinduism was introduced to Indonesia through traders arriving from India.

 However, recent discoveries of Sanskrit transcriptions in places like eastern Kalimantan, a considerable distance from the international trade route, and also in western Java have given rise to a new theory that it was introduced to the Indonesian islands through rishis and their Indian and Indonesian disciples.

 References in Balinese literature about Pura Pucak Raung (in the Eastern Javanese district of Glenmore), where Maharishi Markandeya is said to have visited and gathered followers, further bolster this claim.

Local Influence:

But as is common with most of the religions, Hinduism in Indonesia (known formally as “Agama Hindu Dharma” in Bahasa Indonesia) got influenced with local beliefs, customs and traditions and developed a distinctly Indonesian flavor.

 It shares all the main beliefs of Hinduism like a belief that all of the Gods are manifestations of the Supreme Being, belief in the Trimurti of Brahma, Vishnu (Wisnu), Mahesh (Ciwa) representing the creator, preserver and destroyer roles of the Supreme Being, belief in sacred texts of Vedas, Puranas and Itihaasas, etc.

 However it lacks the traditional Hindu emphasis on cycles of rebirth and reincarnation, but instead is greatly influenced by the Chinese and Eastern Asian concept of ancestral spirits. Brahmins are regarded as the prestigious class but instead of being affiliated with any temple, they act as spiritual leaders and advisers to individual families.

Hindu Kingdoms:

Being accepted as an Indonesian religion, Hinduism is reflected in early Indonesian polity as well. Various Hindu kingdoms began to emerge in the main islands of Java and Sumatra. Most notable amongst them are Srivijaya and Majapahit which flourished to become empires and influenced the events of the region.

Srivijaya Kingdom:

Srivijaya kingdom was based in Palembang, in the island of Sumatra. Accounts of its origins vary from 200 AD to 500 AD. But mainly from 7th century AD, it appears in contemporary Chinese and other trade records as an important maritime Indonesian kingdom.

 Srivijaya established suzerainty over large areas of Sumatra, western Java and much of the Malay Peninsula. Dominating the Malacca and Sunda straits, it controlled both the spice route traffic and local trade, charging a toll on passing ships. Serving as an entrepôt for Chinese, Malay, and Indian markets, the port of Palembang, accessible from the coast by way of a river, accumulated great wealth.

 In 903 AD, a Muslim writer Ibn Rustah was so impressed with the wealth of Srivijaya’s ruler that he declared one would not hear of a king who was richer, stronger or with more revenue. Srivijaya also maintained close relations with the Pala Empire in Bengal and an 860 AD inscription records that the maharaja of Srivijaya dedicated a monastery at the Nalanda University in Pala territory.

 Fall of the Srivijaya Kingdom: Relations with the Chola dynasty of southern India were initially friendly but deteriorated into actual warfare in the eleventh century. Although Srivijaya managed to survive Chola invasion and conquest, it got gravely weakened, lost its regional hegemony and gave rise to formation of small kingdoms. As the decline went further, Islam made its way to the Aceh region of Sumatra.

 In 13th century, the kingdom of Pasai in northern Sumatra converted to Islam putting further pressure on Srivijaya. In 1365 AD, Srivijaya was conquered by the Hindu Majapahit Empire from Java. A rebellion in 1377 AD was squashed down by Majapahit, but left the area of Southern Sumatra in chaos and desolation giving further impetus to the growth of Islam.

 By 1402 AD, Parameswara, the last prince of Srivijaya who had fled Palembang after being defeated by Majapahits, married a Muslim princess of Pasai and founded a kingdom on the Malay Peninsula. In 1414 AD, at the age of 70 he himself converted to Islam declaring his kingdom as the ‘Sultanate of Malacca’. 

Other Hindu Kingdoms: During the same time period some other Hindu kingdoms like Sailendra and Singhasari existed on the island of Java. Some of the magnificent Hindu and Buddhist temples in Southeast Asia are built-in that time frame.

The Borobudur temple complex, in honor of Mahayana Buddhism, contains 2,000,000 cubic feet of stone and includes 27,000 square feet of stone bas-relief. Shiva’s great temple is less than 50 miles away at Prambanan.

Majapahit Empire:

Based in eastern Java in since 1293 AD, Majapahit was the last Hindu empire in Indonesia. It reached its height in the mid-14th century under King Hayam Wuruk (1350AD-89AD) and his Prime Minister Gajah Mada.

The New Year ceremony during the Majapahit era was a major religious ceremony which used to be attended by Indian scholars as well. Thus in one of the inscriptions, the poet asserts that the only famous countries in the world were Java and India because both contained many religious experts! However, after the death of Hayam Wuruk, the kingdom grew internally weaker due to family feuds and found itself unable to control the rising power of the Sultanate of Malacca.

Finally in 1478, Brawijaya the last Majapahit ruler converted to Islam. The last remaining courtsmen of Majapahit were forced to withdraw eastward. A large number of courtiers, artisans, priests, and Hindu members of the royalty moved east to the island of Bali at the end of Majapahit’s existence; where they remained isolated before being colonized by the Dutch.

Conversion to Islam:

In both Java and Sumatra, as the royalty converted to Islam, the citizens followed suit. And although many cultural aspects of the religion were preserved, Hinduism ceased to exist as a major spiritual force after being the main Indonesian religion for centuries.

This is undoubtedly a major event in the history of Hinduism and should be studied and understood in great detail by all those who love this ancient continuous tradition. It would reveal the conditions and reasons behind the downfall of Hinduism from one of its strongholds and might prove as a guidance to avoid such circumstances elsewhere in the future.

Hindus Renaissance and Challenges:

Preserved by Balinese Hindus through their turbulent history, Hinduism is experiencing a revival in all parts of Indonesia in the recent times. While many Javanese had retained aspects of their indigenous and Hindu traditions through the centuries of Islamic influence, under the banner of ‘Javanist religion’ (kejawen), no more than a few isolated communities upheld Hinduism as the primary mark of their public identity.

 Even officially identifying their religion as Hinduism was not a legal possibility for Indonesians until 1962 AD, when it became the fifth state-recognized religion. This recognition was initially sought by Balinese religious organizations and granted for the sake of Bali, where the majority was Hindu.

The largest of these organizations, Parisada Hindu Dharma Bali, changed its name to P.H.D. Indonesia (PHDI) in 1964, reflecting subsequent efforts to define Hinduism as a national rather than just a Balinese affair. Religious identity became a life and death issue for many Indonesians around the same time as Hinduism gained recognition, namely in the wake of the violent anti-Communist purge of 1965-66.

Persons lacking affiliation with a state recognized-religion tended to be classed as atheists and hence as communist suspects. Despite the inherent disadvantages of joining a national religious minority, a deep concern for the preservation of their traditional ancestral religious practices made Hinduism a more palatable option than Islam for several ethnic groups in the outer islands.

 In the early seventies, the Toraja people of Sulawesi island were the first to realize this opportunity by seeking shelter for their indigenous religious practices under the broad umbrella of ‘Hinduism’, followed by the Karo Batak of Sumatra in 1977 and the Ngaju Dayak of Kalimantan in 1980. The rate of conversion (or re-conversion) to Hinduism accelerated dramatically during and after the collapse of former President Suharto’s authoritarian regime in 1998.

For some Indonesians this return to the ‘religion of Majapahit‘ was a matter of nationalist pride. PHDI, in an annual report claims the ‘Hindu congregation’ (umat hindu) of East Java province to have grown by 76,000 souls in 1999 alone.

Temple Reconstruction:

Apart from political environment, socio-economic factors also contributed to this trend. In the last few decades, especially after being formally recognized as an official Indonesian religion, some of the ancient Hindu temples are being revived in Indonesia with the generous donations from wealthy Balinese Hindus.

 Surge in the number of households proclaiming themselves as the followers of Hinduism has been seen around these revived temples. Prominent among them include Pura (temple) Blambangan in the regency of Banyuwangi completed around 1978, Pura Mandaragiri Sumeru Agung, located on the slope of Mt Sumeru, Java’s highest mountain completed in 1992 and recently completed Pura Loka Moksa Jayabaya in the village of Menang near Kediri and Pura Pucak Raung in the Eastern Javanese district of Glenmore. Similar resurgence was observed around major archaeological remains of ancient Hindu temple sites in Trowulan near Mojokerto. Economically, the newly built temples have brought new prosperity to local populations.

 Apart from employment in the building, expansion, and repair of the temple itself, a steady stream of Balinese pilgrims to this now nationally recognized temple has led to the growth of a sizeable service industry. In the recent international environment, pondering on the secret to the economic success of their Balinese neighbors, several local inhabitants have also concluded that Hindu culture may be more conducive to the development of an international tourism industry.

What the future holds:Contributed by all these factors, a slow yet certain revival of Hinduism in Indonesia is observed. However, it also should be noted that simultaneously, a steady increase in the number of Wahabi mosques funded by Saudi oil money has contributed to the increased radicalization of Southeast Asian Muslim populace. It would be interesting to see how the Hindu revival movement proceeds under such circumstances in future.

Shreyas Limaye is a PhD student in the Industrial Engineering department at University of Washington, Seattle

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Those Who are Supporting A Mosque Near Ground Zero May Learn a Lesson FROM Ayodhya.


SOME TIMES BY ; SAM HINDU

After debating 60 years, the Lucknow bench of Allahabad high court ruled that the disputed land surrounding Babri mosque will be divided in three ways. Muslims will get one-third of the land and two other Hindu groups will have the other two.

The site is extremely sacred for the Hindus. They believe it was the birthplace of the Hindu god Ram and there was a massive temple before the mosque was built. Archaeological evidences clearly show that there was indeed a temple.

In the 16th century, the first Mughal emperor of India erected a mosque after demolishing the temple.

Those who are supporting a mosque near Ground Zero may learn a lesson from this event. Muslims are famous for hijacking other religions’ holy places.

Mohammed, the CULT  LEADER of Islam converted Kaba in Mecca from a worshiping place for the Quraish tribe to Muslims’ sacred place.

There was no mosque or any sign of Islam in Jerusalem when Mohammed delivered Islam. ISLAM AND ITS PROPAGANDA LIES THAT Mohammed stopped at Jerusalem when he was flying on a horse like creature NAMED BARAC to meet the god of Islam. At a later time, Omar, a Caliphate of Muslims built a small mosque in Jerusalem which was rebuilt at the time of Saladin’s rule.

Babri mosque was no exception. However, devout Hindus wanted to claim their sacred place and in 1949, they brought statues of Hindu deities in the middle of the night and started worshiping there. The government stepped in and the high court ordered to lock the mosque, prohibiting both Muslims and Hindus from worshiping.

In 1986,  Only Hindus were allowed  access TO THE TEMPLE AND DISPUTED  Mosque.

In 1992, amid the tension between Hindu and Muslims, a huge crowd of Hindus gathered and demolished the mosque. The incident sparked riot between Hindus and Muslims, and at least 3,000 people were killed.

An investigation took place and several law suits were filed. Finally, after 18 years, India has a verdict.

The three judges of the panel which comprised one Muslim and two Hindu judges acknowledged that the disputed place is sacred to Hindus. They further considered the beliefs of Hindus that it was the birthplace of Hindu deity Ram. The verdict also mentioned the Archaeological evidences of having a massive temple where Emperor Babar built the mosque.

The Hindu religious bodies and some Muslim leaders welcomed the verdict. However,  the Sunni Wakf Board, the Muslim group who earned one-third right is dissatisfied with the judgment and will move to Supreme Court.

Not surprisingly, Hamid Saeed Kazmi, the Minister for Religious Affairs in Pakistan criticized the judgment and asked the Indian Muslims to file an appeal in the Supreme Court. He said the verdict was, “totally in favor of the Hindu community.” He further claimed Pakistan has always been against any injustice among minority communities, whereas the Indian government is not treating the Muslims fairly.

Why is the CongI not interested in the History of Ayodhya?


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Why is the CongI not interested in the History of Ayodhya?
  
Yes the post independence history of Nehruvian Congress is worst.
  
That is why the Nehruvian Congress has tried very hard to see that people forget its history. For this reasons its top and dynasty successors asking the people of India to forget history and look ahead for the future.
  
This is mainly because if the people of India forget history of Nehruvian Congress, the Nehruvian Congress can repeat the history. E.g. In 1970 Indira Gandhi had given a slogan “Remove poverty” and the left out CongI leaders thought they themselves are poor hence they removed their own poverty and flooded the accounts in Swiss and other banks. Off course people had forgotten that Nehru had given the same slogan in other wordings in 1952.
  
Now again in 2008 the dynasty successor asked people of India to forget history and gave a slogan of “Remove poverty”. It is the Nehruvian culture to give infectious slogans all the time and fool the common mass, which they have kept willfully poor and illiterate.
OK at the moment this is not our topic.
  
Our topic is as to why the Nehruvian Congress asks us to forget the Indian history as a whole?
  
Not clear?
  
It is only the way of handling the issue of Ayodhya by the Nehruvian Congress.
  
Why are there the archeology department and a minister thereof?
What is their duty?
For what are they there?
Are they paid for taking rest and not to apply their mind?
Are they paid for some routine maintenance of few selected structures of heritage and to neglect others unless a big hue and cry made against their negligence and they are forced to act otherwise they would lose of power?
  
In fact the ministry of archeology has very wide functions and duties. But it does not like to apply its mind and does not like to act unless the Nehruvian dynasty leader presses them to act. What can be done if a matter is beyond the caliber of the dynasty leader?
 
These Nehruvian dynasty leaders need consultants who either is from cross border (USSR) or some leaders of vote banks. The latter have their own limitations and vested interest.
  
Now let us come to the point.
  
What was the duty of CongI at least when the structure of the Mosque in Ayodhya was demolished?
 
It is on recorded history that it is the traditional culture of the rulers belonged to the herds of Christian and Muslim religions to demolish the cultural structures especially the places of devotion of the people whom they conquered.
 
Christians especially of western world have discontinued this tradition. But Muslims still maintain the tradition. This cultural tradition had been articulated in Afghanistan. Some Hindus had also articulated this in Bangladesh, Pakistan and Kashmir by Muslims on the name of reaction of the demolition of a Mosque in Ayodhya by some Hindus. There is no end to the reaction of Muslims fanatics in the world. They do not need even a reason for reaction.
 
What was the issue in Ayodhya?
 
A case was pending in a court of law where one party was Hindu and the other party was Muslim had a claim on a same property.
 
After demolition of the Mosque, the court asked government to acquire the place and to excavate the site as to know what existed under the ground of the structure of Mosque.
Now you must have a look at the site. The vast area itself is a high level area. Further the land of the Mosque itself on a significantly high Plateau.
 
It is a matter of common sense that there must exist something archeological interest.
 
It is a well-known dispute whether the character of Rama was a myth or historical.Who was Rama ? (via Santosh Bhatt’s Blog) Rama lived in Ayodhya as per the epic. Ram Setu and Lord Rama… (via Santosh Bhatt’s Blog) Off course according to Nehruvian dynasty led Congress and some western historians, Rama merely a fictious character, and thereby it was a very good opportunity for this Maculae’s devotees to prove themselves pious and lovers of Historical truths.
 
Some how the court of law had given the instructions to carry out excavation beneath the mosque. Viz. approximately feet by 40 feet i.e. 1200 square feet that had been occupied by the mosque.
 
The team of archeological excavation found a lot small and big items of archeological interest.  It was the duty of the ministry of archeology to give instructions to carry out wider and extensive excavation to try to find out likely more archeological structures. This ministry could have done this of its own, as this was its duty to put efforts to unearth the archeological evidences of Indian history.
 
Since the existence of archeological evidence had been proved, the whole of the area or even whole of Ayodhya with land covered within 8 kilometers of radius, must have been acquired by the government. No body’s claim on that place can be entertained once the site becomes archeological interest.
 
But Nehruvian Congress wants to divide people by religion. The Ayodhya issue has been allowed to continue as an issue related with religion instead of being historical evidence.
Since all the coverage is being given with a communal color, the Nehruvian Congress is trying very hard to keep the fear alive of communal riots.
 
In fact neither Hindus nor the local Indian Muslims (with minor exceptions who support cross border terrorists) are interested in riots.
 
The cross border terrorists only are interested in making people of India unrest.
 
These cross border terrorists have never reacted suddenly. They use to survey the target. Then they plan for the attack. Then they prepare gangs and then execute the plan.
CongI and its intelligence must be aware of this tradition. In spite of this CongI is making big show of its security arrangement. CongI has generated a paper tiger and it has presented it as a real tiger.
 
Consequent to the Court’s judgement nothing would happen but CongI would say that by its security arrangement the tiger could not harm the people.
This is called politics in joint venture by Communists & Gobbles.

Berlin Wall & Ayodhya Temple


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Berlin Wall & Ayodhya Temple

By Dr Jay Dubashi

The Wall itself was an ugly structure, which only communists can put up. It was an eyesore right in the midst of one of the most beautiful cities in Europe. When I climbed the Wall and stood on top, I could see East German soldiers patrolling beneath us, with drawn bayonets.

On November 9, 1989 to be exact, a wall came down in Europe and it changed history for all time to come. It brought an empire built up by monsters known as communists crashing down on their heads.

 It was an earth-shaking event whose after-effects are still being felt across the world, though it happened twenty years ago. And the whole thing began with the removal of a single brick from a wall that had stood between the people of Europe and freedom.

I am referring, of course, to the Berlin Wall that was brought crashing down on that date, but I also refer to other mental bricks that the communists had erected around the world in an effort to safeguard their imperial interests. With the Wall, went the 72-year-old history of a moth-eaten revolution, in the name of which, the commies had tried to bamboozle a whole world, and almost succeeded.

There is also another quirk of history. While the Wall was coming down in Berlin, the first brick of the Ramshila foundation was being laid in Ayodhya. While a temple was going up at Ayodhya, a communist temple was being demolished at the same hour and on the same day five thousand miles away in Europe. If this is not a historic coincidence, I do not know what is.

Actually, it is not a coincidence. It is history in the making, for history has a way of righting a wrong and restoring a balance to the entire historical architecture. The Berlin Wall came crashing down because it was a perversity and a product of twisted minds. Ayodhya Evidence The Ayodhya temple was going up because it was a right temple at the right place, for where else would you have a temple for Sri Ram except at Ayodhya, the sacred place where he was born? All that has happened is that a wrong has been righted, which is what history does, for that is its main function.

I was at the Berlin Wall a few months before it fell. I had gone there more as a tourist, but also as a student of history. I wanted to know how it feels to be part of history, in fact, to be history itself, for I had a strong suspicion that the Wall was destined to come down sometime or the other, maybe even in our own lifetime, though that was too good to be true. I flew from Frankfurt to Berlin in a rickety plane that almost crashed before we landed. But our Berlin hosts assured us that we were safe, probably safer than the Wall itself.

But when I arrived at the Wall, not far from the old Hitler chancellery, I somehow felt that things were not quite right. The Wall itself was an ugly structure, which only communists can put up. It was an eyesore right in the midst of one of the most beautiful cities in Europe.

When I climbed the Wall and stood on top, I could see East German soldiers patrolling beneath us, with drawn bayonets, as if preparing for an assault. One soldier was so close to us that I could almost touch him and nearly did, until I was told that these men had shot dozens of East Germans crossing over to West Berlin, as it was a crime to leave your part of the city to go into another part. Communists have strange rules about domicile, for sometimes you are a citizen of their country though there are times when you are not.

This was twenty years ago. Things have changed and the whole of East Germany has now become part of Germany. There is, of course, no Berlin Wall, and you can drive from one part of Berlin to another without bothering about visas and such things. Lots of countries east of the Berlin Wall have now left the Soviet Union which itself has ceased to exist.

 There is no Soviet Union. There is no hammer and sickle, and there are no red flags. Lenin’s corpse is moulting in the mausoleum while the government decides what to do with it. Moscow is, however, full of broken statues of Joseph Stalin and his comrades, gathering dust and moss in some forlorn parks where even children fear to go.

The Berlin Wall was more a symbol than a piece of brick and mortar, but the fall of the Wall was succeeded by the fall of communism itself, as if the two were related, which, of course, they were. It took only two years more for the communist regime in the Soviet Union to collapse, as if it was waiting for the Wall to fall. Even Mikhail Gorbachev must have been surprised at the way the Soviet Union disintegrated so rapidly after the dismantling of the Wall.

What about Ayodhya? It will take maybe another thousand years before a temple comes up at the place. It is shocking how slowly things move in India. As I said, it took the East Europeans only a couple of years to dismantle the evil empire of Stalin & Co. and recast their country in a new democratic mould.

Those who have visited the new Russia say that the country is no more what it used to be under Stalin & Co. Some things are better and some things are worse, but the new Russians as a whole are much better off than they used to be. There are still beggars taking shelter in the Moscow underground and young women offering themselves right under the windows of the Kremlin-as they did when Stalin was alive-but otherwise things have changed for the better. People are better dressed, they eat better, and children go to schools that have proper teachers and proper textbooks.

But, as I said, nothing has changed in Ayodhya. Time has stood still, as it always does in India, when there is no one to push it. We Hindus are a timid lot. We are always looking for someone else to solve our problems, as if we had nothing to do with them, and the problems were not our responsibility. Ayodhya is not someone else’s responsibility; it is the responsibility of Hindus-and Indians.

 It is true we have a hostile government in Delhi and an equally hostile and irresponsible one in Uttar Pradesh, but we cannot go on endlessly waiting for someone come from the heavens to help us build the temple. It is time we Hindus gave up looking for others to solve our problems. If we cannot make an effort-legal, political and social-to have a temple for Sri Ram built in Ayodhya, what is the use of all these millions of Hindus who are supposed to inhabit this land of ours?

Hindus have to help themselves, even if the whole world is against them. Didn’t the people of West Berlin help themselves? The Berlin Wall was demolished, brick by brick, stone by stone, until nothing remained in the place on November 9, 1989. But we Hindus are still waiting for our temple.

Source: Folks Magazine

Here is my list of demands from Moslims:


SOME TIMES BY ; SAM HINDU 

 Often I think and realise and watch Moslims migrate to foreign land or west for better life and as soon as they are comfortable in new Home land they start thinking like true Moslim and starts demanding small favours and once you accommodate those second one is waiting and then third and then fourth. 

Moslim cabbie wants foot bath installed at Airport, University and would refuse to abide by our Law of land. and wants us to respect their filthy belief system and us Infidel have to give in all the time because we have to respect their belief and that belief wants to eliminate and behade me and subdue my family and that much lectern i cant take in my ass.  ( Excuse my French) But i don’t like to be politically correct and I don’t steal words to make my point.. 

So I thought about this topic whole night and came up with list of my demands Moslims should   fulfill and Muzzie need to know that   no excuses are acceptable by me or my religion or my country from cult members. 

Moslims In Pakistan, women are called awra. or Aurat means Vagina.. (via Sam Hindu’s Blog) so learn what you are making your own family members and free them from shackle of slavery of Islam and fell the air in your air from freedom. And get rid of Dirt Bag from head of your loving Mother and Sister. They are humans too. In 100 Degree have you ever thought what is going on in theat tent and how your wife, sister or Mother feel in dirt bag. Just put a Moslim man in it and they will get answer. 

Here is my list of demands from Moslims:                   

1. They must acknowledge the supremacist element of Islam. Koran, Hadith and Sira, their primary texts, are very clear that non-Muslims are to be humiliated and abused and political superiority of Islam to be established by all believing Muslims. In history, during Muslim rules, either non-Muslims were left alone after ensuring their political debility and incapacity to raise their stature, or there were active atrocities by Muslims against them, such as enslavement, rape and murder. 

 I was just wondering ……Are emotions of Muslims more important than the liveS OF KAFIR.. 

The Muslim approach has been, by and large, to deny all atrocities. All kinds of rationalizations and outright lies are produced to refuse to acknowledge the fundamental difference between Islam and other religions – that other religions carried out atrocities as aberrations from the commands of their religion, whereas Muslims did so as explicit and commanded obligation of their religion. Momins and Kafirs.. 

THIS IS WHAT ALL MUSLIMS RECITE ALL DAY IN THEIR FIVE DAILY SALATS AND FREE TIME Moslims open your eyes and see what cult mentality has done to you and your family for centuries.  Learn what you recite and learn in your own language it will open your eyes. not in some foreign language Mumbo Jumbo… 

 Muslims have spent centuries now with their present approach. Hindus and Christian and Jew should refuse to accept their rationalizations and lies. Hindus , Jew and Christian should demand that they change their approach and start by first accepting mea culpa. That is Hindus first expectation from Muslims. 

 One of its implications will be that Muslims will become more willing to take actions to reverse past wrongs which has the potential to resolve issues such as Ram Janambhoomi. 

2. In India, they must acknowledge Hindu liberalism in not only giving them equal rights, but also making best efforts to treat them the same as any other denomination in India. Presently, their approach is to deny any generosity on the part of the Hindus, as if even after country’s partition along religious lines, it was their prerogative to get all the rights in partitioned India. And now, further demands are being added by them to make them privileged members of Indian society. 

I would like them to remember that after partition, Hindus could easily have taken away the political rights. They could live here safely and work and grow, but there was nothing to stop Hindus from denying them political franchise. Indeed, such an action would have been a logical corollary of the partition. Instead of acknowledging that Hindus did something for them we did not have to necessarily, their words and actions imply that they achieved the political status through their shrewdness. Such an approach creates ill will amongst Hindus, even though we may not always say it. 

3. They should undertake a serious study of how nonMuslims are treated in Muslim majority areas. That is in terms of political rights, safety and security of their person and property, social discrimination etc. Based on the study, they should bring pressure upon the leaders of these societies to ensure equal rights and fair treatment of non-Muslims in these geographies. The actions of Indian Muslims in this regard should be sincere and visible, and not just cosmetic and designed to fool the non -Muslims. 

This will have enormous implications. Indian Muslims will need to act effectively to ensure reversal of ethnic cleansing of Pandit from the Kashmir valley. They will have to ensure that Kashmiri Muslims do not make unreasonable demands such as the reversal of provision of small pieces of land for pilgrimage for Hindus. They will have to bring pressure upon Muslim countries from Pakistan to Saudi Arabia to give equal rights to non-Muslims. One more implication will be, of course, to ask, no not just ask but to bring visible pressure on Saudis to allow all religions to practise and preach their religions in Saudi Arabia ! 

But the most important implication of such an approach will be that every Muslim but the hardened supremacist will be forced to tone down his demand from the Indian state and the society. Once they are fully aware of how the Muslim world treats the non-Muslims, they will have to thank their God that non-Muslims do not reciprocate their behavior. 

4. Their attire, the most visible sign of their identity, is designed not only to mark them out, but also create a sense of separation in them. They should dress and carry themselves in a manner that does not highlight their separateness to the extent it does at present. Muslim Women’s Joy Of Slavery… in Burkha and Hijab. The Bearded And Moslim 

Healthy Minds are turned in to Beast by Lies Of Islam

Superiority complex is a mask to hide one’s inferiority comp

 

5. They should give more space to non-Muslims’ religious practices and make fair, non-threatening demands for theirs. While carrying out the practices of their religion, they should negotiate with authorities and other religions in a spirit of accommodation and fair play. 

To demand no music from others in Ramadan, to occupy roads and create traffic problems during friday prayers, to insist on azan at unearthly hours on loudspeakers, all these highlight their supremacist mindset and create ill will amongst non-Muslims.  Stop all voice pollution and pray with heart not with loud speaker and disturbing others.. that is not prayer but it is propaganda. 

Know what you are reciting and understand meanings of it. what you are reciting is just propaganda that Mohammad’s sex life  and his rape are legal. 

THIS IS WHAT ALL MUSLIMS RECITE ALL DAY IN THEIR FIVE DAILY SALATS AND FREE TIME 

 While all religions have some such features, other religions negotiate their needs with the authorities without taking threatening position. Muslims must also follow similar policy in regard to their religion. Muslim Belief about Infidel… Understanding Muhammad & 😉 His Women Sex Slaves. 

6. They must forthwith stop cheering Pakistan in cricket matches ! 

Pakistan, you are a failed state 

But we know Muslims will do none of the above but continue making demands on the Indian state and the Indian society. All the above are reasonable demands that a fair minded Muslim (assuming there are some out there), would be willing to concede. But by and large, Muslims won’t do so. Not only nationalist Hindus of the BJP supporting type, but also “secular” Hindus know that the Muslims will not concede any of the above. 

Deep down, all Hindus on the subcontinent, whether nationalist or secular, know Muslims are supremacists and all their behavior, including demands for special privileges like reservations, spring out of the that desire for supremacy. 

 I suppose my list of demands is more directed towards the “secularist” Hindus: You know that the above demands are perfectly reasonable, you know that Muslims still won’t concede them. Therefore, you should know that Muslims don’t make demands because they feel wronged. They do so because they are trying to establish political domination.This is How Moslims Think.. Wake up America. Hindustan.  Wake up, before it is too late !! Hindus Unite Before You Are Eliminated 

Hinduism: Age of the earth according to Vedic chronology


 

 

Hinduism: Age of the earth according to Vedic chronology

by Sam Hindu on Friday, July 30, 2010 at 6:36am
Hinduism:
Age of the earth according to Vedic chronology
“The Hindu religion is the only one of the world’s great faiths dedicated to the idea that the Cosmos itself undergoes an immense, indeed an infinite, number of deaths and rebirths. It is the only religion in which the time scales correspond, to those of modern scientific cosmology. Its cycles run from our ordinary day and night to a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion years long. Longer than the age of the Earth or the Sun and about half the time since the Big Bang. And there are much longer time scales still.”

“A millennium before Europeans were willing to divest themselves of the Biblical idea that the world was a few thousand years old, the Mayans were thinking of millions and the Hindus billions.”
Dr. Carl Sagan, (1934-1996) famous astrophysicist
According to Vedic chronology, Hinduism describes the age of the earth in detail. Details can be found in the Bhagwat Maha Purana or Bhagwatam.

Our earth is part of a material manifestation called a BRAHMANDA, a group of interrelated but separate regions or abodes called lokas, each conditioned by its respective quality of material time and space. In other words, what would be equivalent to one year in one of these lokas may be correspond to 12,000 of our earth years.

Most of our brahmandais subtle and imperceptible to us. Our earth planet is part of this configuration. A brahmanda is basically comprised of one planetary system with an earth inhabited by living beings, a sun and the above described regions.

According to the chronology of Hinduism, the divine personality who creates this with God‘s grace and who oversees it is called “Brahma” (the creator). This is a seat or position located in the subtle or celestial regions of a brahmanda (Brahma – name of the creator), anda – his spherical creation, literally ‘egg’.)

In one galaxy, there is an inestimable number of brahmandas (earth planet + other interrelated and subtle abodes) and their corresponding Brahmas.

The supreme creator or original inspiration for the creation of the entire universe is God.

How old is the earth? The earth came into existence with Brahma and will exist as long as he does. As long as Brahma lives, his creation continues to exist. When his term ends, this brahamanda will enter into absolute dissolution.

In between, there are periodic episodes of dissolution and creation of a lesser order, in which the earth enters a period of dormancy, when all life ends, but is again restored. Brahma is the personality that observes and maintains this schedule.

A soul incarnates in a particular brahmanda and remains there until its end. After this, that soul will enter another brahmanda. This has happened eternally for all the souls and will continue eternally. Only the soul who becomes liberated from maya is exempted from this.

We can calculate the age of the earth from the age of Brahma. The Vedic chronology of Hinduism uses a base unit of calculation called a chaturyugi. This is comprised of 4 yugas (periods of time). Their lengths and corresponding names are:

1,728,000 years = sat yuga

1,296,000 = treta yuga

864,000 = dwapar yuga

432,000 = kali yuga

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4,320,000 years = one charturyugi (one 4-yuga cycle)

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1000 chaturyugis = one day of Brahma

1000 chaturyugis = one night of Brahma

8,640,000,000 years = one full day (24 hours) of Brahma

100 celestial years = age that Brahma lives to

50 celestial years = Brahma’s current age, or,

155.5 trillion years = the current age of this earth. bold

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